As if by magic they’ve released a statement saying nothing.
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-issue-statement-on-antony
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/man-utd-issue-statement-on-antony
I see, well then. There goes that argument.
You can’t lump the Greenwood and Antony cases in together. Greenwood’s case was one of a kind because of the evidence that went public. Evidence neither the club nor the player have been able to explain away ever since. So the club is entitled to respond to the reputational damage that they would incur if Greenwood turned out to play for them every weekend.
Obviously, the Antony situation is different. And I’m sure he’d have been given the same protection that any other of the many other footballers who’ve faced similar accusations over the years. If it wasn’t for the Greenwood case creating a precedent. So it’s all a bit of a mess.
I am just sad and frustrated by yet another crisis.
what a nothing statement..
That was the point I was trying to make. Our CEO bends to negative media. The media now dictates who we can select/keep in our team.
This was never the case in the past. We've had plenty of negative media and dealt with it swiftly and decisively under SAF.
And yes, I agree there are sociopaths on here. But I will stay away from all the morality discussions and await the final verdict from the courts/law enforcement.
What exactly do you want them to say without prejudicing an investigation and potential legal case? He hasn't been charged with anything so they can't say anything other than that they are aware of the allegations.
It’s a statement because they were under pressure for not releasing a statement. They aren’t going to suspend him unless he’s charged.
What exactly did you want Club to Say .
From the official club statement "Based on the evidence available to us, we have concluded that the material posted online did not provide a full picture and that Mason did not commit the offences in respect of which he was originally charged. "
If you are talking about Greenwood, then I'm glad the media brought the club to the right decision.
Adds nothing to the discussion
Maybe we can find a Spanish club to loan Antony to. Seems like there’s not much of a problem having very controversial players play for a club there.
That’s not explaining away
Yeah, we’ve all read the statement. As I said, evidence neither the club nor the player have been able to explain away ever since.
Rachel Riley will be fuming with that statement.
Good point. That could be a factor.
They can't say anything. And can't stay quiet. It's a mess.
Just take the posters off your wall and accept ye have grown apart.
I don't understand why people think the club are under any sort of obligation to provide an explanation to us.
Apparently he was already in Brazil. As @Mickeza pointed out.
Nothing statement but there's also nothing they can say. As I've said before .. Greenwood situation was different due to the audio released. This is about the same as any other case. You can't make a decision based on just allegation, he said she said or whatever. If he gets charged, then he'll be suspended. If not, life goes on.
They're not. But that must leaves us with what we saw. Which was vile.
What did you want them to say?
Good statement. The final line was interesting as I don't recall seeing anything similar with Greenwood "...with consideration of the impact of these allegations and subsequent reporting will have on survivors of abuse."
And not a single comment on Arsenal who have been even more spineless than United. For what it’s worth, United absolutely did the correct thing, and didn’t bungle it, by suspending him with pay while the police were investigating and he was subsequently charged.There is no right thing here.
And as you have said United completely bungled it, they didn't act out of righteous indignation, because they did a u-turn after they faced the possibility of some uproar. If they had immediately terminated MG after the stuff came out then I would be more understanding of the decision, and applauding their lack of dithering, even if I disagreed with us taking such a loss. There's no right way on this, but there's credit in making a stern decision and standing behind it.
But United don't get any credit for this. They were bullied into a decision here (and the statement is so vacuous there are arguments on what it actually means). I'd use the word spineless but I got quality points for using it earlier
Once the charges were dropped, and United didn’t have access to the evidence in those original charges, it became very difficult for United - whatever their decision was, it was handled badly. But that doesn’t override the fact that they did the right thing initially.
There no credit for making the wrong decision and standing by it, like Arsenal have done.
You responded to a post saying that the Greenwood evidence was never explained away, with a quote from the club where they explicitly didn’t explain the evidence away. If you’d replied with the second post originally I wouldn’t have quoted you
Hoping Antony is found innocent quickly, if innocent.
(Sorry, shouldn't laugh - but it genuinely made me laugh, and there is no emoji for "nodding in approval whilst laughing but also looking somewhat concerned").
Were people this concerned during Partey's rapey investigation? Or Arsenal is beyond criticism?
Slowly realising.
Glazers are shite, we're a shambles, joke of a club, we're committing soduku
Realistically that’s about as much as the club can say and do at this point
Why would United fans be as concerned about an Arsenal player?
Well atleast we’re experts in dealing with this now, I guess.
united really feels on a low right now, I really feel for ETH. It’s just one thing after another.
united really feels on a low right now, I really feel for ETH. It’s just one thing after another.
What people are you talking about, specifically?
Good statement imo what else can they say?
Partey has been mentioned about a billion times on this board, this last year!
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This can go on for months. Unfortunately, it’s a no-win situation for all the parties involved.