lex talionis
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Strange question. Might as well ask why we even bother fielding a squad to play football.
Yep.He's the correct signing but there should've been other players bought in before him which is the issue IMO. The squad looks unbalanced which is the issue and the transfer strategy doesn't make alot of sense to me as far creating balance goes.
I'm as bewildered as anyone. All of our starting midfielders are immortal and infallible, so there's absolutely no conceivable reason they'd miss any games. Van de Beek will have to content himself with washing Ole's car and doing his laundry, I guess, because there's no chance he'll play football for us for the foreseeable future.
It would make sense ordinarily but ...our club are horrendous at formulating future plans to most things so I highly doubt that was the case. We are true connoisseurs of the scatter-gun approachWe may have resigned ourselves to losing Pogba over the next 12 months or so, in which case the signing makes perfect sense.
Yep. There is some logic behind it but I doubt they have really though about realistically replacing Matic for the dlp position, or whether Pogba can effectively play as a holding mid long term (he is looking terrible at it presently).It would make sense ordinarily but ...our club are horrendous at formulating future plans to most things so I highly doubt that was the case. We are true connoisseurs of the scatter-gun approach
Don’t forget pashun.Yep. Lingz has the most important aspect needed to succeed here - youth.
Because we can't run Bruno into the ground like last season. I'm pretty sick of this idiotic idea some people seem to have that we only need 11 players.Simple question can somebody explain?
Absolutely. That goes without saying for someone as young as JLingz.Don’t forget pashun.
The point is not about squad depth in this instance. Bruno was signed as backup to Pogba. Now Pogba has been shunted to holding mid and currently performing poorly. For the AM position we would if we wanted have Pogba and Bruno. Now we have Pogba, Bruno and Donny. The real problem is that there is not direct replacement for the Matic role, and we have 2 b2b midfielders as backup for the DM role.Because we can't run Bruno into the ground like last season. I'm pretty sick of this idiotic idea some people seem to have that we only need 11 players.
Not really. Even without Bruno, the few times Pogba played, he wasn't advanced in the 19/20 seasonThe point is not about squad depth in this instance. Bruno was signed as backup to Pogba. Now Pogba has been shunted to holding mid and currently performing poorly. For the AM position we would if we wanted have Pogba and Bruno. Now we have Pogba, Bruno and Donny. The real problem is that there is not direct replacement for the Matic role, and we have 2 b2b midfielders as backup for the DM role.
Many ways to skin a cat but at the moment our insistence of playing a holding mid and x2 10s isn't looking very good.
Might be the most naive OP I have EVER seen in this forum and I've been around a while.Simple question can somebody explain?
Well in an ideal world then. Everybody knows Pogba performs best in that advanced midfield role whether starting or cameos off the bench. This has been the case at both Juve and United. Playing him deeper was more or a response to our holding mids being seen as subpar and getting Pogba more involved in overall team play. Now I clearly remember the talk of Bruno being signed and that being great depth for the advanced midfield role especially as Pogba was out injured.... then the debate was whether Pogba and Bruno could play together in the same team. This was not a discussion about their personalities but because they were clearly seen to both perform best in the same role and Pogba not really being a holding mid.Not really. Even without Bruno, the few times Pogba played, he wasn't advanced in the 19/20 season
I think Bruno is clearly better than Pogba in an advanced midfield role.Well in an ideal world then. Everybody knows Pogba performs best in that advanced midfield role whether starting or cameos off the bench. This has been the case at both Juve and United. Playing him deeper was more or a response to our holding mids being seen as subpar and getting Pogba more involved in overall team play. Now I clearly remember the talk of Bruno being signed and that being great depth for the advanced midfield role especially as Pogba was out injured.... then the debate was whether Pogba and Bruno could play together in the same team. This was not a discussion about their personalities but because they were clearly seen to both perform best in the same role and Pogba not really being a holding mid.
Pogba is presently demonstrating what many worried about. He is not a good deep midfielder. You think about Roy Keane.... keeping it simple, controlling play, keeping possession, and busting his lungs to recover the ball. Pogba does none of these.
Things can change is football but this in my present diagnosis. It will be interesting how Ole tries to find a solution to this.
Good point. Especially if Pogba hasn't fully recovered from COVID-19.The better question would have been "why isn't DVB starting ?"rather than questioning why he was bought
Ole has to do something for sure. Pogba being benched at the start for a few games (specially considering the tough ones coming up where we could do without his lackluster form) isn't the end of the world, it might even make him react. We need something to changeWell in an ideal world then. Everybody knows Pogba performs best in that advanced midfield role whether starting or cameos off the bench. This has been the case at both Juve and United. Playing him deeper was more or a response to our holding mids being seen as subpar and getting Pogba more involved in overall team play. Now I clearly remember the talk of Bruno being signed and that being great depth for the advanced midfield role especially as Pogba was out injured.... then the debate was whether Pogba and Bruno could play together in the same team. This was not a discussion about their personalities but because they were clearly seen to both perform best in the same role and Pogba not really being a holding mid.
Pogba is presently demonstrating what many worried about. He is not a good deep midfielder. You think about Roy Keane.... keeping it simple, controlling play, keeping possession, and busting his lungs to recover the ball. Pogba does none of these.
Things can change is football but this in my present diagnosis. It will be interesting how Ole tries to find a solution to this.
This is my point!I can see why the opening poster is asking the question, as at the moment we look like we need proper starter upgrades.
So to make one signing, and he's just a squaddie does raise questions.
Hopefully we can produce some magic this last week of the deadline, but it's hard to see.
Thank goodness we scrambled a win out today.
Again, a 23 year old has not left his home club, country and friends to be backup and a squad player for a team barely in the Champions LeagueFrom every perspective, this question is a little odd.
If you're questioning his ability, that's a bit harsh considering he is certainly a very talented midfielder with European experience and might add some much needed goals from midfield.
If you're questioning his place in the squad, the cover players for Pogba and Bruno, should they get tired or injured, are currently Fred and Lingard. That's bluntly not good enough at this point, and we have a talented player breathing down their necks and willing to fight for his place.
We’ve only played 3 games in the season and he’s featured in everyone.This is my point!
Again, a 23 year old has not left his home club, country and friends to be backup and a squad player for a team barely in the Champions League
But VdB doesn't have the same flair or ability as Pogba or Bruno if I swap him in for either of those when I play FIFA??Might be the most naive OP I have EVER seen in this forum and I've been around a while.
Do you know the concept of 'quality squad depth' ? It's been around a while this concept. Competition for places and all that... jeez.
please don’t ever put Pogba in the same category as Ronaldo !!Like he’s anywhere good enough to replace Pogba. it would be like replacing Ronaldo with Valencia all over again.
You are right. How could I have missed this.... so simple.But VdB doesn't have the same flair or ability as Pogba or Bruno if I swap him in for either of those when I play FIFA??
Surely these last couple of games were exactly why we bought him? Pogba looks way off the pace fitness wise, this was the ideal time for VDB to start in his place.Rotation. Squad rotation. He'll be in the next game.
Wrong.The point is not about squad depth in this instance. Bruno was signed as backup to Pogba. Now Pogba has been shunted to holding mid and currently performing poorly. For the AM position we would if we wanted have Pogba and Bruno. Now we have Pogba, Bruno and Donny. The real problem is that there is not direct replacement for the Matic role, and we have 2 b2b midfielders as backup for the DM role.
Many ways to skin a cat but at the moment our insistence of playing a holding mid and x2 10s isn't looking very good.
yes I agree. I have friends that had Covid 4 months ago and are still suffering from Fatigue. Pogba maybe suffering from Fatigue in the same way .Good point. Especially if Pogba hasn't fully recovered from COVID-19.
I thought VDB should have started instead of Pogba. Pogba was clearly unfit. May be he doesn't trust VDB yet.Ed thought he played right wing....
squad depth and rotation. Why he didn’t appear in the Brighton game? That’s the real question.