Igor Drefljak
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Yeah, thats what I thought mostly...Sit back and counter. But doing that against the likes of Everton is a joke
Just so frustrating as we're a side that should be playing on the front foot, controlling games
Yeah, thats what I thought mostly...Sit back and counter. But doing that against the likes of Everton is a joke
Exactly! which is why I dont want Ole in chargeYeah, thats what I thought mostly...
Just so frustrating as we're a side that should be playing on the front foot, controlling games
Expectation? Very people expect that United will finish top 4 this season. Very people expect that United will finish top 4 next season - they expect you'll have a decent chance, but recognise that there will be 5 other strong or very strong contenders and that United are in a bit of a mess currently.I think you are confusing 'Pressure' with 'Challenge'. Substitute the word in the quoted post, it will be correct. Pochettino has faced and is facing all the challenges you claim. But pressure comes with expectation. Requirement to do something. If Pochettino doesn't reach final, meh. if pochettino doesn't keep spurs in top 4, meh (he has injuries and transfer policy to fall back on, but life moves on, he won't be fired). Bottomline - no, Pochettino doesn't face the same pressure as a United manager would. FACT.
I know our squad is paid far more than theirs.Oh come on. You know our squad is better than Everton and Watfords but they outplayed us for fun.
These are also dreadful circumstances though - all of which I believe the manager has no influence over whatsoever. I don't know if Solskjær will be a hit - in fact if some of the transfer rumors I've heard are true I'm somewhat skeptic as he seems to be going for young players (which is good) but second-rate ones more suited for Europa League than of Champions League quality so my main concern with him is that he'll carry with him something of a small-club mentality at a time where we need to flex our muscles and get the best talents out there into our fold. But skepticism aside - it's silly season anyways so all rumors in regards to potential targets are probably utter bullcrap - he should be given next season to prove himself.The club should have waited until May before deciding on OGS's appointment. I don't understand what the rush was for. It's not like there was a queue of other top clubs battling for his signature. By any standards, 7 losses in 9 matches is a dreadful run.
Well that’s pretty fecking stupid them isn’t it? Ole got them playing well, well done ole. And once again the players are playing the same way as under Jose. But it’s never the players, right? It’s always the “toxic” managers.I bet you couldn't believe people were praising the manager when we were that great run? That how football works, you win you praised you lose you get brickbats.
Or maybe it's not that better, just overpaid and overhyped.Oh come on. You know our squad is better than Everton and Watfords but they outplayed us for fun.
Or, ole wasn’t here during Jose’s time and once again Pogba is showing his true colours as player who couldn’t give a feck. But, no. Let’s just blame ole.So, winning run = Ole made a fight of it
Losing run = Ole has nothing to do with this, not his responsibility or fault. Players are trash and it’s 100% Mourinho’s fault. Not even Ferguson or Busby in their prime could or would do better.
bruv, I beg you read the posts, that’s literally what was said, here:That's a bit simplistic summary of the posters on CAF who are still behind Ole.
I think it's more like
Ferguson nor Busby at the peak of their management powers could have done any more.
see.We were miles away from challenging for a top 4 place when he arrived and despite inheriting a very limited team of players he made a fight of it.
They are not his players....all blame is on Jose 100%
This can’t be said enough.Or maybe it's not that better, just overpaid and overhyped.
Yeah, man we have a 7 losses in 9 record because Pogba doesn’t give a feck despite him being instrumental in the run that gave an unqualified Ole the permanent job in the first place.Or, ole wasn’t here during Jose’s time and once again Pogba is showing his true colours as player who couldn’t give a feck. But, no. Let’s just blame ole.
Our players are certainly inept, our last manager was most definitely inept ( as were the two before him)bruv, I beg you read the posts, that’s literally what was said, here:
see.
also, Ole has set us up for counters from the go so I don’t know where you guys got this whole attacking, some next man even said “dominating”, football thing from. Hell, Van Gaal has had his foot on Ole’s neck in the press for a minute now, because he sets us up to counter/park the bus.
and then you went on to list a bunch of “hard” teams we had to play as if it justifies Manchester United having a 7 losses in 9 games record.
Our manager is inept. He is way out of his depth. His managerial history is relegating Cardiff and managing in a league with part-time fishermen.
This is not the hill to die on.
You think our squad isn't much better than that of Everton and Watford?I know our squad is paid far more than theirs.
I think Young, Darmian, Mata, Jones, pereira, Matic, Lingard, Sanchez, martial, Lukaku, Rojo, Bailly, Mc tominey & Fred are little better than players on their first teams and those that have more potential talent are not as committed or driven.You think our squad isn't much better than that of Everton and Watford?
When did anyone say Pogba was shit? No one did. You just make that claim because you have no answer to the actual criticism aimed at him, which is that jogba isn’t trying. “But, but, but he made two chances”. Two chances, who knew the bar had dropped that low. That’s what world class is now? Lingard must be world class too. It’s easy to be great when everything is going fine, it’s when it all starts going wrong you see who players really are. Our “stars” are all guilty of not giving a feck.Yeah, man we have a 7 losses in 9 record because Pogba doesn’t give a feck despite him being instrumental in the run that gave an unqualified Ole the permanent job in the first place.
The fact that you even singled out and/or attempted to attribute this shit to Pogba
I’m convinced you guys scream “curse you Pogba!!!!” when you spill your coffee in the morning or some shit
Are you really putting the whole blame on Mourinho and others and absolving Solskjaer from any blame for losing 7 in 9 and having us playing awfully for weeks? Managers are meant to manage the situation. If Solskjaer is unable to do so, then he simply shouldn't be a manager.Okay 95 % He has continued playing Young when it is obvious that he is absolutely finished and has been slow to leave Matic out also , but he can bring no-one else in and he is stuck with a limited team and players that haven't got the desire or bottle for a fight when required.
That's not ole's fault that is what he inherited from previous managers.
His appointment may/may not turn out to be a success but blaming him for the mess of this season is ridiculous.
The fact you mentioned players that rarely play for us says everything. That our players look unmovitated goes a long way to show the incompetence of the managers we've had at helm.I think Young, Darmian, Mata, Jones, pereira, Matic, Lingard, Sanchez, martial, Lukaku, Rojo, Bailly, Mc tominey & Fred are little better than players on their first teams and those that have more potential talent are not as committed or driven.
Most of those players play very oftenThe fact you mentioned players that rarely play for us says everything. That our players look unmovitated goes a long way to show the incompetence of the managers we've had at helm.
Like bringing in a new captain to pilot the titanic after it hit the icebergAre you really putting the whole blame on Mourinho and others and absolving Solskjaer from any blame for losing 7 in 9 and having us playing awfully for weeks? Managers are meant to manage the situation. If Solskjaer is unable to do so, then he simply shouldn't be a manager.
The players look like that because they are cnuts. They were cnuts for Jose, and now they’re being cnuts for ole. Why people don’t see the very obvious attitude problems in some of these players I don’t know.The fact you mentioned players that rarely play for us says everything. That our players look unmovitated goes a long way to show the incompetence of the managers we've had at helm.
A few of them have attitude issues but the majority are just no longer good enough and/or their legs have goneThe players look like that because they are cnuts. They were cnuts for Jose, and now they’re being cnuts for ole. Why people don’t see the very obvious attitude problems in some of these players I don’t know.
We have 15 more points than Everton and 21 more points than West Ham with a manager that you labelled inept managing about half of our games. Imagine how the gap would be if we didn't have a manager that is inept managing half of our games. That says a lot about the difference between our squad and that of the likes of West Ham and Everton. With the same squad, we finished second in the league last season and beat every team when Mourinho actually bothered to do his job. Now you are trying to diminish such squad just to defend a manager that did something which has never been done for about six decades while getting outplayed by every other team. A joke really.Most of those players play very often
Like bringing in a new manager to manage a team after the previous manager proved to be 'inept'. Maybe the new manager is just as inept as the one he replaced until proven otherwise.Like bringing in a new captain to pilot the titanic after it hit the iceberg
Unless being a cnut is our main criteria for signing players, then it takes something special to have a 25-man squad that is completely made up of cnuts. If it was one or two players that has such issues, then good point, but if it is a whole squad that is unable to perform, then the manager simply isn't doing his job correctly as was the case with Mourinho.The players look like that because they are cnuts. They were cnuts for Jose, and now they’re being cnuts for ole. Why people don’t see the very obvious attitude problems in some of these players I don’t know.
Our “stars” are cnuts, rotting the rest of the team. There’s a couple of players that still care and try every game. But what you can do when the supposed best players down tools, don’t care, don’t want to try? Playing for united isn’t enough motivation? Hundreds of thousands a week isn’t enough motivation? Tens of thousands of fans screaming your name isn’t enough motivation?Unless being a cnut is our main criteria for signing players, then it takes something special to have a 25-man squad that is completely made up of cnuts. If it was one or two players that has such issues, then good point, but if it is a whole squad that is unable to perform, then the manager simply isn't doing his job correctly as was the case with Mourinho.
Do they respect anyone? The club? The fans? The guy that writes the cheques? Or even themselves?On question we have to begin to ask ourselves now we've lost so many games is, do our players respect him? They're certainly not playing like they do.
True but this is a thread on Solskjaer and its possible that they don't give a feck he scored a goal 20 years ago and are not motivated playing under him.Do they respect anyone? The club? The fans? The guy that writes the cheques? Or even themselves?
Yeah, I just don’t think that should matter. Whether they like him or not shouldn’t come in to it. And if it does, I think that says more about them, than him.True but this is a thread on Solskjaer and its possible that they don't give a feck he scored a goal 20 years ago and are not motivated playing under him.
He could be out of his depth and they can see through it. He had a good start at Cardiff, the owner loved him and so did the fans, and he tried to play attacking football and managed to sign United prodigy Mats Daehli but he only managed 7 wins all season. Something was really amiss. The players liked him but he just couldn't get results.On question we have to begin to ask ourselves now we've lost so many games is, do our players respect him? They're certainly not playing like they do.
I didn't say like, I said respect. Big difference, maybe they do like him that's the problem.Yeah, I just don’t think that should matter. Whether they like him or not shouldn’t come in to it. And if it does, I think that says more about them, than him.
Indeed, this Rashy and Youngy talk does not inspire confidence in me. I was personally always against his appointment and stated as much many times, he hasn't the pedigree required.He could be out of his depth and they can see through it. He had a good start at Cardiff, the owner loved him and so did the fans, and he tried to play attacking football and managed to sign United prodigy Mats Daehli but he only managed 7 wins all season. Something was really amiss. The players liked him but he just couldn't get results.
I agree 100% with this. The rot currently at your club has to start with Woodward obviously (get him out ASAP), but then you look at what I imagine is becoming a very toxic dressing room. Pogba is no doubt a great player, but I don't think he is right for Man Utd at present. When things aren't going well for a club, he is definitely the guy to down tools and start turning players against the club or manager. He is a toxic element to what is going on behind the scenes, I'm sure.Our “stars” are cnuts, rotting the rest of the team. There’s a couple of players that still care and try every game. But what you can do when the supposed best players down tools, don’t care, don’t want to try? Playing for united isn’t enough motivation? Hundreds of thousands a week isn’t enough motivation? Tens of thousands of fans screaming your name isn’t enough motivation?