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Also this is probably the most appropriate active thread to note that the Arab Spring’s first target has died:
Despite everything, brave Syrians are still protesting. From Deir Ezzor today:
And Idlib:
Sadly those are just nothing compared to what it used to be.
Thing is I can't get behind the FSA or any kind of armed rebels now, I thought some at the start were fine but year after year they get worse.Hard for me to put myself in your shoes, but I'd encourage you not to give up all hope. The fact that there are still protests taking place across the country after everything that's happened must be significant in some way. In Idlib the protests have never really stopped throughout the war. In Ma'arat they've protested against pretty much everyone involved in the war at some stage, despite being under regime bombardment and the threat of Nusra/HTS or whatever it's called these days. That's quite impressive. I'm sure you'll know all about this a lot more than me.
Thing is I can't get behind the FSA or any kind of armed rebels now, I thought some at the start were fine but year after year they get worse.
People wants the basics. Electricity, clean water, and good health system. Then they are demanding the government to help with the problem of finding jobs. These demands changed over the course of the protests to the point of asking the government to resign. On October 25th there will be a massive demonstration that the government is working very hard to prevent. They even arrested many social media figures who were calling /planning for the 25th protests.Don't know much about the current wave of protests, but these are very brave people no matter what. Hate it so much when people die. Does anyone know what the wider demands are beyond the fall of the government?
Still ongoing...
Any thoughts @Ballache? I saw some horrific footage earlier of protesters shot by Amal goons in Tyre.
Thanks. Have more concrete ideas emerged within the Iraqi movement as for how and with whom the current government should be replaced?People wants the basics. Electricity, clean water, and good health system. Then they are demanding the government to help with the problem of finding jobs. These demands changed over the course of the protests to the point of asking the government to resign. On October 25th there will be a massive demonstration that the government is working very hard to prevent. They even arrested many social media figures who were calling /planning for the 25th protests.
It's about time, bar some minor incidents the protests have been exemplary and I'm so proud of my people. We managed to turn this into a big party
As for Amal, I don't think I hate any politician in Lebanon more than I hate Berri. The guy has been in power for 30 years and been robbing us blind. He sent his goons to disrupt the protests as usual but it didn't work this time.
What's encouraging about these protests, is that Shias in Lebanon have spoken out against their leadership and that never happens.
Personally I hope this puts pressure on the government to make some drastic changes, but I don't feel that removing the government completely is the answer right now. We have no alternative at the moment and the military taking over isn't a valid option right now. Make drastic changes, tax the rich, work on extracting the oil reserves and hopefully we will have an alternative for the next elections.
We shall see, our PM said there will be some drastic decisions in 72 hours. One day remains.
I hope you saw the reform list. Biggest joke I've ever heard. I hope all of them die a horrible horrible death.
The people of Tripoli are the best. The DJ has been lighting it up for 2 nights.
He said he supports the protests(the reasons behind the protest) but doesn't want to ask his followers to go down to the streets because then it'll look like they are trying to claim the protest.What has been the position of Hezbollah/Nasrallah towards these protests? And vice-versa? I’ve heard mixed things.
He said he supports the protests(the reasons behind the protest) but doesn't want to ask his followers to go down to the streets because then it'll look like they are trying to claim the protest.
He also gave his reasons as to why the government should not fall and they were valid points to be fair.
Summary is he wants the government to stay but to actually do it's work without taxing the people
Yeah I saw his speech, he seemed to say all the right things. But then I saw reports last night that gangs of Hezbollah and Amal supporters were out to cause trouble and prevented from reaching the protesters by the army. But I know not to trust anything I read about Hezbollah online, so was just wondering if there was any truth there.
Would it be fair to say Nasrallah might be questioning the value of the alliance with Amal right now?
Why is the office of the train rails still present and collecting salaries? We haven't had trains since the 60s I think
Sorry, but
Change of tone from Nasrallah today? (I haven’t seen the speech)...
(Edit): pretty hypocritical of him to be accusing anyone in Lebanon of receiving support from a foreign source.
63 dead since the protests started yesterday across Iraq.