The Corinthian
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I can't find it but I've read on numerous other forums he attempted to hang himself the day before.Source for the bolded?
I really don't think this is the correct thread for this. You're trying to make a connection where there's no evidence that Archie died attempting a Tiktok trend. His mum saying that it was because of that was something she quickly stopped saying yet it keeps being brought up by other people.
The likelihood that Archie wanted to take his own life means the two cases are almost identical.I really don't think this is the correct thread for this. You're trying to make a connection where there's no evidence that Archie died attempting a Tiktok trend. His mum saying that it was because of that was something she quickly stopped saying yet it keeps being brought up by other people.
You're completely right but if you look at the Corinthian's previous comments today you'd see that they won't be posting it because of what you've pointed out.The likelihood that Archie wanted to take his own life means the two cases are almost identical.
Two kids who were hooked on tiktok/instagram. Both became depressed, probably caused by the interactions they were having online. Tiktok and Instagram algorithms fed them more and more content featuring depression and self-harm, and this had an amplifying affect on their mental health, eventually leading to their suicides.
Yea, one of the reasons I posted it was to dispel the myth (if there was one) that Archie tried killing himself. I think the reality is they had unfettered use of social media at too young an age. The reality is that this 'challenge' has resulted in two needless deaths.
Which mom wants to believe that their kid wanted to die? Whether or not he did commit suicide or try to commit suicide, his mother isn't a reliable source for his intentions.His mum said he did.
There’s a lot of speculation hereThe likelihood that Archie wanted to take his own life means the two cases are almost identical.
Two kids who were hooked on tiktok/instagram. Both became depressed, probably caused by the interactions they were having online. Tiktok and Instagram algorithms fed them more and more content featuring depression and self-harm, and this had an amplifying affect on their mental health, eventually leading to their suicides.
I’d say it’s more reliable evidence than @ThierryFabregas saying he read such and such on online forums.Which mom wants to believe that their kid wanted to die? Whether or not he did commit suicide or try to commit suicide, his mother isn't a reliable source for his intentions.
I mean, my general pov on this case is the dangers of social media. The link I posted speaks to that albeit not a similar type of case.I really don't think this is the correct thread for this. You're trying to make a connection where there's no evidence that Archie died attempting a Tiktok trend. His mum saying that it was because of that was something she quickly stopped saying yet it keeps being brought up by other people.
Not that much. The only speculative part I can see is what actually triggered their depression.There’s a lot of speculation here
Is this a roundabout way of saying he was attempting a TikTok challenge?I do believe that Archie was influenced by what he saw online and didn’t commit suicide
Yea I think he was attempting a TikTok challenge.Is this a roundabout way of saying he was attempting a TikTok challenge?
If not, can you elaborate as it is unclear what you mean.
Fair enough, I struggle reconciling that and thus tentatively lean toward suicide.Yea I think he was attempting a TikTok challenge.
Yea it definitely predates TikTok (and social media generally), it's just the virality of content (due to social media) means that something that can lead to danger is so much more harder to contain nowadays.I had a student a few years ago who “died from the Blackout Challenge”. It’s never really been established, as far as I can tell, if he really did or if he died of suicide and it was called that.
Regarding the Blackout Challenge’s legitimacy, the Rolling Stone actually made a mention of it in an article about TikTok…
“The Blackout Challenge, for instance, far predates TikTok; the numbers regarding how many kids have died from the challenge, as reported by Women’s Health and many other outlets, are actually sourced from a 2008 CDC press release, which started tracking reports of deaths resulting from the challenge (then called “the choking game”) as far back as 1995.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...-penny-challenge-momo-bogus-hoax-1277018/amp/
Yeah it’s wild how that stuff has gone from people whispering about it in their friend group to just broadcast across the internet. Worst part, besides the obvious, is it leaves so much uncertainty. I changed schools a year later, so I don’t know if that kid’s family and friends have ever found out definitively why he died. It’s sad.Yea it definitely predates TikTok (and social media generally), it's just the virality of content (due to social media) means that something that can lead to danger is so much more harder to contain nowadays.
When I was in school (~16 years ago), we had a variant of this challenge called 'American Dream', that also resulted in people losing consciousness. Although it found its way into our school, the only way it could move to another school is by word of mouth, or a phone call, or meeting up etc. Now this idea can jump from one area to another in a matter of seconds.
Agreed. Seems more likely he killed hinself after a row.The rest of the thread suggests that there's no evidence at all that Archie did any challenge.
No surprise there then. Total red herring.Coroner finds no evidence that Archie was taking part in online challenge.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-63557850
Shame his mother never apologised for what she said about his treatment by the hospital. They did everything they could which the inquest acknowledged.But we can say for certainty that Archie never videoed or photographed himself to prove that he took part. He never searched the internet for any blackout or online challenges, and never accessed YouTube for challenges, and we can say with certainty that he never communicated with friends about an online blackout challenge