Arthur? I hardly knew her!
Arthur Melo - Juventus's old number five
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He's on course to break the record for how many times the same player can be like a new signing for a club.
4 months = 18 weeks * £100k = nice work if you can get it
No wonder he doesn't want to go into teaching.
He may be freelancing pro bono …….. plenty of young ladies who might need teaching something in Liverpool nightclubs…..
So Liverpool signed him and he’s had 13 minutes v Napoli and now requires surgery and will be sidelined for months.
Probably beating the Saul Niguez loan for absolute pointlessness.
Sometimes it’s amazing just how terribly a signing can go. I’m sure he’s not on cheap wages eitherSo Liverpool signed him and he’s had 13 minutes v Napoli and now requires surgery and will be sidelined for months.
Has to be worse then Saul
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3/4 months out. He’ll not play a single game for them and will go back to Juve surely.
Liverpool must have had one of the worst transfer windows in history?
Nunez for €100m
Arthur
Selling Mane for next to nothing
Saul played and was shite. Not sure what’s worse
Zakaria is up there
Remember when all the cafe experts thought he would be fantastic signing for us?
How long we standing by ?
Well there was the Steven Caulker one where he ended up playing as a striker.
You also had Kim Kallstrom at Arsenal. He fell on a pebble and was out for months.
Falcao had 2. Not many are going to beat that.
Isn't insurance paying the wages when a player is sidelined for a sustained period of time?
Even if it’s not the club paying it, it’s still been a disaster of a move so far
No denying that
Is he still alive?
I forgot he even went to Liverpool
Closer to what exactly? Fulham? how the mighty have fallen
So did I
I can't wait for a Liverpool midfield featuring Melo and Thiago at the same time
So did he
Did he really play for them?
The thumbs up friend's vacation in Italy is over. He wants to go back to England but Klopp has given his house to Darwin Nunez.
There’ve been a few Brazilians who’ve preferred partying to putting the graft in but this guy is up there with the likes of Robinho and Adriano for lack of professionalism.
He looked pretty special at gremio, absolutely tailor made to occupy a midfield role in the tiki taka Barca sides. His decline has been steep.
He looked pretty special at gremio, absolutely tailor made to occupy a midfield role in the tiki taka Barca sides. His decline has been steep.
A pity, a player with a great talent to receive and hold the ball surrounded by rivales.
"his professionalism and ability were clear to all who worked with him".
Klopp is fantastic with the English language.
Klopp is fantastic with the English language.
Wasn’t there some eejit on the caf who swore down we should have signed this guy instead of Casemiro?
I wasn’t aware of the exact reasons behind his decline aside from the well publicised injuries (which to be honest came well after there’d been years of stories about his drinking, drug use and lack of professionalism) but a significant part of professionalism in any walk of life will be how you deal with adversity and whether it completely sinks you or whether you grit your teeth and work your way through it.
Evidently he feels his father’s death sent him into a depression led career death-spiral, but the gap between his fantastic ability and his dearth of professionalism was extremely well publicised both in his homeland and in Europe from reasonably early on in his career.
For context, Alisson Becker’s father who he was extremely close to drowned unexpectedly late last year. He took a week or two to visit his family in Brazil before returning and knuckling down. Aside from Salah, Becker has pretty much been the only player at the club who has performed this season.
Mental health is health. You don't say that a player with a broken leg that doesn't train is unprofessional, and you shouldn't say that a player that is suffering from depression is unprofessional.
Illness isn't "adversity" to "work through".
Probably Yagami. I won't tag him because he'll likely get pelters.
Still standing and waiting…
It’s a tough one. We aren’t in a position to judge really, without being close to him at the time. A differentiation has to be made though between being depressed and having depression. One is a mental health disorder, another is an emotion that everyone goes through when dealing with tough times. And part of being successful in life - and I don’t mean monetarily - is having the mental strength and emotional intelligence to deal with adversity. Rather than turning to drink and drugs. That’s not a judgement.
I would venture that dealing with depression as a mental health affliction would’ve presented itself before his father’s death. And although we can’t say for sure it didn’t, from his own description it sounds like he was very affected by his father’s death and went into a self destructive cycle as a result. Which is different.
But I don’t want to be quick to judge when I don’t know all the facts. Whether he genuinely has mental health problems, or he lacked the mental capacity to deal with his grief, the way his career unravelled was tragic. His choices to disappear into the favelas and be seen in videos brandishing automatic weapons, suggests he still had the capacity to seek out diversions he found fulfilling. It just wasn’t football. A real shame because he was a super player in his prime.