Is Aguero also leaving with messi?
Barcelona: Charged with corruption .... again!
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Aguero could be the main man there now, I can understand him feeling a bit upset about Messi but Barca still have a good squad and I'm sure he'll bag a lot of goals over there.
I played futsal with him tonightYeah you were saying I think. I think it’s time you hit him up and and gloat.
I forgot to bring it up but come to think of it, he really was in a foul mood.He's already looking to cancel his contract according to reports.
Barcelona to struggle to make top 4 this season?
Will be interesting to see the sin-Messi effect.
Their revenue will drop by some 40%
La Ligas finances will completely collapse
According to Messi fans
I think they can still do it, they have enough quality there to do so, but the problem is the massive adjustment of not having Messi on the team anymore. Griezmann will benefit by returning to his favored position if the Cules don't get to him first, but it will take time for them to find their new identity and they need to figure it out without getting left in the dust.
i would love it, but he will stay
bartomeu used to wash financials with creative accounting like selling arthur 70m and buying pjanic (60), he did the same with more swaps.
besides, he signed contracts for players that grew over time. numbers are invented but imagine, you sign a player and the contract says that you will pay him 10-12-14-16-18 for 5 years. it means that you salaries are higher every year and the player is older making complicated to drop him if needed, but that was the only way he had to sign players and comply with FFP. add years and players and you have created a monster. besides, a lot of clauses to increase what the team pays for a player. since he couldn't spend 100 million for a player, he did something like 60 + 60 in further years with easy conditions, increasing the fixed costs for following years.
numbers always on the line and dangerous, but anyway still affordable (although extremely expensive).
then covid came, revenued dropped +300M in a year (and we had 1.5 years of covid at this point) and what was already on the edge just failed and it is unpayable (this made the salaries > revenues). the FFP rules demands a >50% drop in salaries, and you can imagine it is very difficult. the high salaries makes it even more complicated.
Even if we can pay the debt by not signing players (only free/very cheap transfers) we cannot use those players due to FFP rules. so it is a combination of factors. within 2 years salaries would decrease a lot because big contracts are over, and you expect to get some extra revenues because there will be people in the stadium, etc., but FFP cannot wait 2 years.
no losses until this year. i explain above some of the "tricks" that felon bartomeu used. the situation was critic but still manageable with some hard years but covid complicated things over 9000.
wtf man?
if this is not the biggest bs i have read in my lifetime it will be close
Martin Braithwaite will step up
We should bid for De Jong and see
This made me think about some years ago, when I posted that I suspected the FFP Rules were really going to have more of an effect and impact on clubs spending well outside their means, and was really more of a protection to prevent clubs going bankrupt through unsustainable spending, like Barca having Neymar, Messi and Suarez, and also Ronaldo's nuclear arms race with Messi on contracts when he was at Real Madrid. I got shouted down from the rafters by all sorts that, "No! no! no! FFP is all about stopping City and PSG." Well, here we are, gents.
Being reported that Aguero wants out as well now
I think Barca fans wouldn't mind Aguero leaving.
Yep. Another Harry Kane situation, although not six year prison sentence
Its seems somewhat strange, that Barcelona got into this mess originally because they lost Neymar to PSG. Now they are losing Messi to PSG because of the actions they took after losing Neymar to PSG. Ouroborus.
fake news, unfortunately
i would mind, because it would make me happy.
FFP does not stop City or PSG because they can create fake contracts, buy some gifts to certain people (ehemferino...) and they will be fine.
FFP does not apply to the outlaws.
Any chance they get relegated if they can’t meet ffp?i would love it, but he will stay
bartomeu used to wash financials with creative accounting like selling arthur 70m and buying pjanic (60), he did the same with more swaps.
besides, he signed contracts for players that grew over time. numbers are invented but imagine, you sign a player and the contract says that you will pay him 10-12-14-16-18 for 5 years. it means that you salaries are higher every year and the player is older making complicated to drop him if needed, but that was the only way he had to sign players and comply with FFP. add years and players and you have created a monster. besides, a lot of clauses to increase what the team pays for a player. since he couldn't spend 100 million for a player, he did something like 60 + 60 in further years with easy conditions, increasing the fixed costs for following years.
numbers always on the line and dangerous, but anyway still affordable (although extremely expensive).
then covid came, revenued dropped +300M in a year (and we had 1.5 years of covid at this point) and what was already on the edge just failed and it is unpayable (this made the salaries > revenues). the FFP rules demands a >50% drop in salaries, and you can imagine it is very difficult. the high salaries makes it even more complicated.
Even if we can pay the debt by not signing players (only free/very cheap transfers) we cannot use those players due to FFP rules. so it is a combination of factors. within 2 years salaries would decrease a lot because big contracts are over, and you expect to get some extra revenues because there will be people in the stadium, etc., but FFP cannot wait 2 years.
no losses until this year. i explain above some of the "tricks" that felon bartomeu used. the situation was critic but still manageable with some hard years but covid complicated things over 9000.
wtf man?
if this is not the biggest bs i have read in my lifetime it will be close
no, barça is paying to the players and its debts. it is impossible to be relegated if you pay.
you can get fines or worst case scenario, you will be prevented from enrolling new players.
How's Pedri feeling after all this? Sure him and his pal Fati might fancy a change of scenery...
The opposite I imagine. They can be the new face of Barca.
Of a club that can't afford to compete with the best...
I tried to look this up, couldn’t find anything. The only thing I’ve found:
Happy and settled at Barcelona, the midfielder compared the Premier League and LaLiga. "I used to think that LaLiga was the strongest football league in the world," De Jong told The Mirror. "You could see their dominance in European Cup competitions. The Spanish clubs always progressed a long way and often grabbed the main trophies, the Champions League and Europa League. But the Premier League has gained power over the last few years. When it comes to pure skills, LaLiga is better. But because of the sheer intensity, the English competition is at a slightly higher level."
https://en.as.com/en/2019/12/29/soccer/1577607349_992427.amp.html
They've got age on their side and plus Barca will always be one of the worlds major clubs , with one of Europe's most unique and world renowned stadiums with a huge support.
They're in a bad shape granted but they're not going to fall off the earth.
Pele, Maradona, Cruyff and Messi. Probably the four greatest players ever, so, yes, he is in the conversation.
That's your opinion. Majority would know who is the odd one out in that group.
Probably Maradona. The rest had long professional careers whereas one had incredible heights but marred by drug addiction issues.
..and fake penises.
Not really worth being the new face of a irrelevant Barca side which is going down the shitter...
A.C. Milan would say otherwise.
still have massive support globally and are on the way back up... we suffered from silvio holding on 5yrs too long and selling to a man no one heard of who "chose" to default handing the club over to Elliott (ask anyone who knows anything, and this was definitely a masterfully articulated plan)..A.C. Milan would say otherwise.
We are now in the hands of an ownership and mgmt that are building w financial meticulousness and focusing on totally modernizing the club (things that had NEVER been done)... this is part of the reason why we're the ONLY italian club who have spent this summer, and will still be spenidng... while the league winners are losing every piece that made them win and to which the revenue geenrated is going directly to repaying their ownership's massive debts (and not being reinvested)
Well we were relegated and yet we were still drawing in major interest.
Barcelona, like us and AC, have a foothold in the game. We're established major clubs.
Anyway, Barca still have a potentially good side on their hands.
Barcelona, like us and AC, have a foothold in the game. We're established major clubs.
Anyway, Barca still have a potentially good side on their hands.
These are all good news for me. I can't stand Barca. Mes que un cnuts.
Maradona didn't do much at Barca. He had a much better career in International football.
Yeah, PSG weren't the hero's we wanted, but have ended up the hero's we needed.
All we need now is for them to make the Dippers lose their mind.
I can’t remember it completely but I recall even during their peak years with Pep that Barcelona had massive debts.
Nah.
Aguero is finished at the top level.
They're about to go through a banter era.
They are in serious trouble. It all started after the Neymar move to PSG. Their handling of transfers/finances since then have been completely catastrophic.
They are in serious trouble. It all started after the Neymar move to PSG. Their handling of transfers/finances since then have been completely catastrophic.