Player amortization and salary mass are 2 very different things.
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Obviously, and that all together is the wage bill. This is how it is called in Spain for the expenditure made in the sports sections.
And it is what is taken into account for the fair play of the Spanish league.
If so, this would be a very bad translation. From what I understood (but I could be wrong, i don't speak spanish and it's hard to find good sources), La Liga determines a salary cap that purely includes wages by calculating the club’s revenue less its operational costs and debt repayments for the following season. From an accounting point of vew, pooling wages and and player amortization under the term "wage bill" wouldn't make sense.
What do you mean by giving importance? It's just a topic for discussion.
So player was willing but agent changed it? Or it maybe the case of Barca just feeding journalists wrong info and then it comes to reality, things are different?
As good or great Spanish clubs are, no player (unless on their last legs) would take pay cut.
Even for argument sake if we assume Messi was paid 150 million, then we are talking about 540 million, which is miles ahead of any other club. Point is, big clubs pay big wages. For some reason few clubs try to create positive PR spin saying how they don't pay big wages. (Like Barca, City, Liverpool)
Alba Pique Alves in defense for Barca, Moyes is highly rated, it's like we are back to 2012/2013
Luuk de Jong having a great game so far.
I am stunned so far
Ter Stegen in a really good form lately, lucky timing for Barcelona because they really need big saves.
At least they broke a record this season.
At least they broke a record this season.
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Laliga includes several variables to make the salary cap. In the expenses section goes the salary of the players + the amortization of the signings, the payment to the agents and the accumulated debt of previous years. Barcelona this year has a salary cap of €97M due to last year's deficit.
I will look for information as reliable as possible in Spanish, and after translating as best I can I will put it here.
Hope mats form continues as it’s been a big shame seeing him drop off so much in recent years as his peak was very good
That's what you get for subbing off Luukinho.
Dreadful, though I still think qualification for Europe is safe , merely because the other teams somehow mange to be even more Dreadful.
Their mentality is still as weak as wet paper. Too many goals conceded after the 80th-minute mark.
Young players and bad defenders, sums up what's wrong with Barcelona at the moment (even if the youngs are good, they're not experience which is normal).
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Indeed. Haaland would he a huge signing for any club, but Barca should really spend 200 million on two top top CBs and a DMF.
Meh. They really just need to get the injured back(Pedri, Fati, Araujo), and a world class forward or two, the rest of the team is more or less quality if Xavi is good at his job
Ter Stegen has been pretty bad this season too, his improved form of late could be a good sign
Ter Stegen has been pretty bad this season too, his improved form of late could be a good sign
Their back 4 is totally inadequate for high level football.
Maybe, maybe not. Pique for all the crap he gets is still generally a really solid CB, Araujo looks good. Question marks on the wingbacks - Dest isn't rated by Xavi and their other options aren't even natutal WBs, but he's also young and Bayern want him, the talent is there. Alba is still quality on the ball, though there are some question marks for me in terms of his ability to play at high intensity, same as with Bisquets. But, again, i think if Xavi is good at his job, they should be fine. Their problem is the lack of quality attackers more than anything else
Barca fans around here keeps aying wait till we get Fati back, but everytime he's back he picks up an injury 2 games later.
Jesus, that kit.
After an additional game, it is now RM 19, Sevilla 17, Barcelona 15.
15 out of 24 comes out to 1.875 PPG; extrapolated to the rest of the season, they'd get 66 points, which is possibly enough to get 4th.
Not really anything to get too excited about.
(The bigger issue is that 'points over 7-8 games is not very meaningful in the first place)
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Xavi has had a good start all things considering. We’ve been ravaged by injuries. It’s going to be a process but the team will only improve once everyone is healthy. Xavi is off to a solid start.
Barca planning to extend Umtiti s contract to 2026 according to Fabrizio. Any truth in this one?
that sounds like something we'd do
Apparently they reduce his salary to meet the salary cap requirements and be able to register Torres. Stupid extension nonetheless, but there is a logic behind that.
Essentially they seem to spread his wages over more years.
Brilliant move with the Umtiti situation as it allows Barca to pay what they would have had to pay him anyway but just spread out over a longer period of time allowing the club to register other players in the meantime. Having a competent board feels so weird
It's not something they'll be able to do for a lot of players though (Lenglet maybe, that's pretty much it), and the fact they had to do that to sign Torres shows Barcelona doesn't have a lot of leeway to sign new players.
no, we don’t for sure BUT considering the awful mess Barto left us in this has truly been an amazing turnaround. Yeah, we haven’t been signing the mbappe’s of the world but considering how bad our situation was the wage cap restructuring and the fact that we’ve been able to sign a anyone at all is incredible and kudos to the board for that. Getting rid of coutinho was another great move.
It seems so short sighted. Now it’s Umtiti on the books for five years that drags them down.
Yeah, brilliant. Until you realise that this guy's wages will be around for the next four years, while offering the square root of 0 on the pitch.
Future will tell if spending that much on Torres was a good idea. Also, they handle the Dembele situation very poorly with Xavi and Laporta saying absurds things like him being better than Mbappé or considering he should be at the center of the project, then act all surprised when his agent shows up with absurd wage demands.
it's pretty much the best they could do to be fair.
that doesn’t matter if the wages are spread out and allow us to register and sign other players. It makes zero difference the money is the same, just gives us way more flexibility
Disagree greatly there, dembele has been constantly injury prone and Barca supported him the entire time. Now he wants a beyond absurd salary for what he’s offered on the pitch and dembele has shot himself in the face with these ridiculous demands. Dembele effed up, no club will meet his crazy demands
Brilliant move
now it’s not wtf, the money is the EXACT same. Literally. It’s like giving someone 20 euro now or giving them 5 euro a year for the next 4 years. There literally is zero downside to how this conteact his structured. He can also be put out on loan and his new salary is reduced greatly since it’s spread out over 4 years that it’s impact on the wage bill is minimal. It’s a very smart and surprising move.
You have no idea clearlyBrilliant move
There is one thing we can now really consider a fact: Umtiti will never sign another professional contract. If he was fit enough he could surely get another contract for 2023-26 and earn more money in total.
Of course we were sure about that, but this ultimately proves that Umtiti himself believes that, too.
Of course we were sure about that, but this ultimately proves that Umtiti himself believes that, too.
Spot on
Thats just for the books though? There’s a clause saying Umtiti can get his full pay next year. You aren’t saving anything, it’s just moving deck chairs around on the titanic.
Just don’t register him. It’s that simple. This creative accounting is what got you in trouble in the first place