Had Barca stopped trying (and I use that term very loosely here) Bayern would have probably somewhat stopped as well.
Bayern Munich 2019-2020
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The space might be there, but getting enough time in the center to actually exploit it isn't so easy. Also, theirs isn't exactly a low one either.Bayern are still slight favorites though, but imagine giving De Bruyne and Sterling that much space behind your back line
It'll be all 20 field players crowding the middle third, and the goalies standing 5m behind on each side
I loved watching Bayern mutilate Barca yesterday. It was a sight to behold. Beautiful football all around! Bravo.
20 players in 40 yards of spaceThe space might be there, but getting enough time in the center to actually exploit it isn't so easy. Also, theirs isn't exactly a low one either.
It'll be all 20 field players crowding the middle third, and the goalies standing 5m behind on each side
I'm just waiting for a book to come out now that says Flick was the tactical brains behind Germany all that time, like how Low was the brains behind Klinsmann term and apparently Buvac was under Klopp
I actually think its more humiliating to pass the ball around for the team taking the beating
Sule will be the Boateng replacement. Both right footed.
With Alaba in Center defense that is where Lucas will have a problem. If Alaba extends we might have the most expensive defensive sub in football or have to sell him for a big loss to PSG who are looking to replace Thiago Silva
With these results come the pressure, we now have to win the CL or all these smashing will not matter
Think if it's City in the next round they'll need Kimmich back in the midfield.
Who plays at RB?
Pavard has been outstanding, but he's been injured and I think it's unlikely he will play again this season.
Right, wasn't sure if you had someone other than Kimmich, or would change the formation to match City in midfield
We have Odriozola on loan, but he'd be a huge downgrade.
Sure, hitting a man when he's down is bad. But, 11 of them + subs is fair game, imo.
I don't subscribe to the idea that teams should stop for the sake of humiliating the other side. It's the Champions League, not Bayern Munich playing a non-league side. I respect Bayern more for going out there and carrying on til the last minute, not letting up. Not enough teams really go for the jugular these days. It was brutal. Wouldn't want to meet Bayern Munich in a dark alleyway.
100% I hate when teams take the foot off the peddle. I love the German mentality like for example when they embarrassed Brazil in their own country. They are ruthless and I love it.
Messi ain't running around like that, no chance.
mmmmh. Once you ran into a buzzsaw(2014), once you were unlucky AND ran into a buzzsaw(2015) but the other two were entirely self-inflicted(2012 and 2016)You had to mention Bayerns team under Heynckes and Guardiola too.
I'd also add 2018, that was peak comedy
Conjuring up memories from the good old yet long gone times of the past, eh?mmmmh. Once you ran into a buzzsaw(2014), once you were unlucky AND ran into a buzzsaw(2015) but the other two were entirely self-inflicted(2012 and 2016)
I'd also add 2018, that was peak comedy
Honestly last night felt like i had an orgy with 11 porn stars, so the good times are very much a thing of the presentConjuring up memories from the good old yet long gone times of the past, eh?
Yeah, in my eyes that 2013 side was definitely better overall. It's also still two games to win for this one to match their achievements.
Sühle tore the same AC ligament twice. Who knows if he will be able to reach his past level ever again and even then I am not sold on Sühle as our future RCB with his injury history. He simply cannot be relied upon to stay healthy.
I bet our FO wishes they had signed Upamecano instead of Hernandez. What a colossal waste of resources.
The biggest difference is that this 2020 Bayern team has at least one glaring weakness in central defense whereas the 2013 team didn't have a single weak link. Dante may be slightly inferior to Alaba, but he was a very competent team defender at Bayern in 2013 and much better than today's version of Jérome Boateng.
Quoting myself here. Also, pretty unfair assessment of Jerome's performance. Yeah, he looked bad against Suarez when he scored, but he was on a yellow by then already. Other than that he was solid, and had lots of good scenes in the build up, too.
You have to consider the quality of opponents in 2013 as well, defeating the champions of Spain, Italy and the second best team in Germany. Yes, they haven't destroyed them like they have thus year but those were dominating performances in different circumstances.
Chelsea, Tottenham and this year's Barcelona are not the same quality of teams the 2013 team beat.
But yes, this Bayern team does have to first beat City/Lyon and the final to even start a conversation with the 2013 team as well.
The point made here was about the 2013s supposed rock soild defense. That defense lost 3-1 in Borisov and 2-0 at home against Arsenal
Their options out wide are Gnabry, Perisic, Coutinho & Coman. Ours are Rashford, Greenwood, James & Lingard. Man we’ve got a long way to go til we get back to the top of European football. Their worst winger would be our best winger.
No one seems to agree with me on this one, mhh. Thanks for all the responses, though.
For me it's clear. People won't be talking about how this or that team moved the ball around, it's all about numbers and hitting 8 makes this one of the most embarrassments of all time. The classy thing would've been to let off, there will come a time Bayern need someone to do it for them, anyway, let's see what comes next.
Exactly. The most insulting thing to a professional is to be belittled like that. I'd rather be beaten 25_0 than have a team go easy on me. Treating other pros as pros is not disrespectful, stopping and taking a breather and wasting off, is far more insulting to them.
It's quite weird to me to think that way to be honest. I mean, it's a professional and commercialized sport in which every club has to push themself as hard as possible to be able to come out on top. In a world where players earn such wages, there is no place for any sentimentality in terms of raw results. There's no need to have any sort of pity for the Barcelona team! They are the ones responsible on the pitch and they played like they played; why bother then? I mean, in terms of sportsmanship, Barcelona can really not ask for anything nowadays. Everybody knows why, this does not need any further explanation.
Wouldn't trade Greenwood for any of theirs.
The only Barca player who didn't stop trying was a former Bayern player
Bayern didn't smash them yesterday because of a higher individual class, I thought that was obvious.
7-8 players posing as threats and able to create or score in the final third. The players were able to operate in different roles depending on what the players did around them really well without any noticeable miscommunication. Every player worked hard both ways (No luxury player). The most dominant attacking performance I have seen from a team in many years.
It is funny because I thought Barca started best and could have been 2-1 up. Such a crazy game. Bayerns attack was just brilliant. Thought Barca attacked well, but could not defend and stop Bayern.
Yes, they started well or at least not bad, but as soon as Bayern adjusted the game was over.
Not sure where you're coming from. I was responding to @Schmeichel's Cartwheel comment that Bayern's worst winger is better than our best.
Yesterday's result overshadows the most impressive achievement from Bayern: their consistency. Always there or thereabout, UCL semifinal or final every season.
Ridiculously consistent side. Perhaps not reaching the heights of peak Barça or Real Madrid, but wonderfully assembled and ruthlessly efficient.
Ridiculously consistent side. Perhaps not reaching the heights of peak Barça or Real Madrid, but wonderfully assembled and ruthlessly efficient.
Yep, one of my favourite quotes ever was when Pep was asked whether it was disrespectful on Burton when he pummeled them 9-0 in the League Cup, he said it would be disrespectful to go easy on them. It’s like you’re telling them there’s no way you can come back from this, you’re not good enough to do it and we know it. That’s much worse than going for it again and again because you respect them enough to think they could get back into it.
I have to say I love Bayern.
I like a lot their self-sufficiency, the physical superiority combined with the quality and efficiency and the arrogance they play with in European knock outs. That shirt transpires greatness through all its pores.
Neither would I but on current level Coman (their worst winger in my opinion) is better than him. Greenwood has world class potential though, and could eclipse all of them in his prime I agree.
Gnabry is some player isn’t he? Hard to believe he was deemed not good enough for West Brom at one point in his career.