Reckon he.ll be on the bench saturday
Bebe | 2010/11 Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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It's a fecking weird transfer, you have to say that
It's a bolt from the blue, I'll give you that.
But the press have basically engineered a story that he's not good enough based on him not turning out for the ressies.
There are probably a 1001 reasons why he didn't feature... only just signed, first time in a new country, no grasp of the language, young player, nervous, unsettled in his personal life at the moment, etc etc etc.
It's utter bollox, creates a story, probably brought on by the fact that Fergie said he never seen him play. But when our chief scout in Portugal and Queiroz insist we have to act on this guy, add to that that madrid, chelsea and benfica to name a few made enquiries, what are you going to listen to, intangible media bollox or professional experts who know the game. Even from the limited clips of him available you can see he has fantastic control of the ball at high speed, as Sir Matt used to say, if the papers are annoyinging you, don't read them...
papers in talking bollocks shocker
Certainly was but these stories are mischief, no doubt he will soon prove them wrong, can't wait
Spending that amount of money without seeing him is out of the ordinary, that's for sure. Any idea what we actually paid?
Think it was GBP in the end, but it could have been the Euro.
Apparently around 7mil pds. The exact figure doesn't really matter, but what we know is that it's a fairly substantial sum. And more importantly, he could have been acquired for free just weeks earlier. I was wondering, if we were acting on CQ's recommendation, why didn't we move in earlier to save us a load of money.
Well, if he turns out to be good, no one will be quibbling about the few million. To be honest, we're making a few too many "take a punt" signings recently for my liking. Obertan, Diouf, Bebe, Smalling etc. The cost does add up, and it's only to buy potential. Let's hope at least one or two of them will go on to justify the total cost.
Well, if he turns out to be good, no one will be quibbling about the few million. To be honest, we're making a few too many "take a punt" signings recently for my liking. Obertan, Diouf, Bebe, Smalling etc. The cost does add up, and it's only to buy potential. Let's hope at least one or two of them will go on to justify the total cost.
The media are just stirring at this juncture but I am not expecting to see Bebe much, if at all, this season.
He was playing in the third division before that move. And after a few games with his new(previous) club in pre season against better quality teams he became more impressive to scouts etc? We don't need a ready made star right now. Our team is full of them and those that are about to get to that level with a bit of luck.
Can't wait to see this guy play as one way or another it will answer quite a few questions.
Very raw young talent from a foreign 3rd division... would give him another 2 years before judging him.
I really don't expect to be able to judge him for quite awhile. From the sound of it he seems to be very raw and we'll have to work with what he has to make him what he can be.
But it's bizarre that there are so many stories floating around him. I mean, if there' one transfer that needs some time before being judged it's this one.
But it's bizarre that there are so many stories floating around him. I mean, if there' one transfer that needs some time before being judged it's this one.
He is probably having a lot of problems settling. Most young foreign players (such as Ronaldo and the Da Silva's) bring family members across with them. Bebe presumably can't.
I always thought scouting involved watching the player against different types of opposition, so that you can get an idea of what level this person might play at. Which is why scouting tends to stretch out over months, sometimes even years. Bebe's never even played an official match against reasonably high-level opposition.
Not saying we always need to buy ready made stars, but this signing strikes me as a bit odd. If what SAF said was true, he's really trusting Quieroz wholeheartedly. That's 7 plus million worth of blind trust, a pure gamble. So like I said, I really hope he turns out alright. But if not, you really have to wonder if the money could have been better spent on someone we were at least a little more sure about.
Boss on Bebe: "Fitness wise he's not up to our level, but ability wise he's excellent - a terrific finisher."
There's the reason he didn't play.
It's not surprising that he's not at our level physically given the standard of football he has played previously.
Press. Molehill. Mountain.
Was Martin Ferguson involved in the deal?
The last player that Quieroz recommended was Manucho.
Fergie is risking his own reputation here, not to mention £7mil at a time when cash seems to be short. If he turnes out to be a flop, Fergie will be beaten with the Bebe stick for some time to come. People are still slating him for Djemba and Kleberson.
The last player that Quieroz recommended was Manucho.
Fergie is risking his own reputation here, not to mention £7mil at a time when cash seems to be short. If he turnes out to be a flop, Fergie will be beaten with the Bebe stick for some time to come. People are still slating him for Djemba and Kleberson.
Aye, it's annoying that people just won't fecking shut up about those two whenever a new signing is discussed, isn't it?
Daniel Taylor continuing to be a cnut about it on Twitter.
Too true. I guess it is because no manager has ever made a bad signing. Oh wait...
In the meantime, they stopped slating him for forlan.....
No matter how good a player is, there is always a chance that he fails to settle at a new club.
As for djemba/kleberson, they were bought alongside 2 other promising players - ronaldo and howard. The club lost around 6 - 7 million on the first 2, broke even on howard and made 70 million profit on ronaldo. But certain retards still talk exclusively about djemba, as if he was the only player we signed that year.
More surprising is the fact that some so-called fans recycle this shit all the time
I think so. Especially Kleberson - he was a top player in the World Cup in 2002and is playing well again for Flamengo. Didnt he get a Brazil call up recently?
Its what makes me think that Bebe must have something about him - i dont think Fergie would make the same mistake twice.
The questions he is asking are valid.
From DTGuardian: Fergie says Bebe wasn't fit enough to play for #MUFC reserves in midweek, but hasn't he played six pre-season matches in Portugal?
Yes, but at a much lower level than at United. It was probably the match and maybe a couple of training sessions a week. If i was dragged from pub football to premier league and had training sessions every day i'd be knackered as well!
The media
How can some people, on a daily basis strive very hard to be nothing more than complete and utter cnuts? It never ceases to amaze me.
Wake up in the morning - "Right.....how can I be an even bigger cnut than yesterday and completely ruin people's day"
He trained with Guimares in the summer which are in the top division in Portugal. Not really a pub football team. Also he played about 5 matches or so which is where our scout saw him play.
Having said that I don't think he is ready for premier league action but expect to see him in the reserves soon.
...of course they are, we all know how much he loves united....
They were barely valid like 4 days ago when they first arose, and I don't see the point on continuing the speculate about our reserve team match squad half a week later unless its, as has been suggested already, so he can get his "I called Bebe as shit right from the start" card punched.
That's good enough for me. Although probably not good enough for Daniel Taylor who presumably has a doctorate in sports science and is privy to Bebe's fitness levels.
Every forward player Fergie signs is a 'terrific finisher'.
Ah, i didn't realise they were a top division side. I still think the language barrier is a big thing for him at the moment.
"Dong is the next Batistuta"
The lack of fitness thing may well be true but whether or not it's got anything to do with him being picked for the reserve derby is neither here nor there. What's irritating about Daniel Taylor's agenda is that he seems absolutely determined to make a massive deal about someone from our reserves not being selected for one reserve game. A game in which an unusual amount of first-team players were accommodated. It's retarded tbh.
The boss also called the reports disgusting and bitter, before saying about the fitness.
I do not expect Bebe to be physically fit for the PL. The fitness levels of the PL are the most probably the highest around, more than anywhere else,so no news there.
Taylor got one thing right
#MCFC say Adebayor is going absolutely nowhere . .
The bench at Man City is a fitting place for such a mercenary
#MCFC say Adebayor is going absolutely nowhere . .
The bench at Man City is a fitting place for such a mercenary
I agree with Fergie.
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