DanNistelrooy
Lineup Prediction & Last Man Standing winner 2017
Leaving out Carrick? He was our best CM last season imo!Vds
neville ferdinand vidic evra
hargreaves scholes anderson
rooney berbatov tevez
That would work perfectly?
Leaving out Carrick? He was our best CM last season imo!Vds
neville ferdinand vidic evra
hargreaves scholes anderson
rooney berbatov tevez
That would work perfectly?
Well swap him then for anderson, use your imagination.Leaving out Carrick? He was our best CM last season imo!
i wouldI wouldn't be so sure.
I used to agree with this there again things had changedThe price is a concern. It has to be. Football clubs are businesses, and in 99% of all the deals ever made in history, one side gets the better of it. United rarely get the better of theirs.
I've never liked this line from supporters, that 'it costs what it costs'. On one hand they want signings. Big, expensive Rolls Royce players. On the other hand, they want cheaper match tickets. These two things are not unrelated. You want one, then you won't get the other.
Personally I'm surprised that we are willing to go out and buy another 25m player, given the circumstances. If Ronaldo stays, we're going to have at least one 25m pound striker warming the bench every week. Great for the fans? Yes. Necessary? No. Overkill IMO.
Lets hope its because the Glazers are very comfortable with the books, and not because we have our own clan of Peter Ridsdales running the show.
Vds
neville ferdinand vidic evra
hargreaves scholes anderson
rooney berbatov tevez
That would work perfectly?
with or without ronnie we've needed a striker of berbatov's calibreI used to agree with this there again things had changed
Ronaldo will soon be leaving (either this or next season) and we would desperately need a quality striker to compensate to him. Berbatov offers that. He is a leader, he is experienced, he is technically gifted, he is a natural goalscorer and he can lead the line.
I used to agree with this there again things had changed
Ronaldo will soon be leaving (either this or next season) and we would desperately need a quality striker to compensate to him. Berbatov offers that. He is a leader, he is experienced, he is technically gifted, he is a natural goalscorer and he can lead the line.
And Saha will be leaving ASAP.
We could have gone away with it. I mean a quality young striker could have done the trick. With Ronaldo's leaving that is not the case. We need an inspirational figure who would be able to fill Ronaldo's boots.with or without ronnie we've needed a striker of berbatov's calibre
he'll play it sometimes home to the west broms of this world where we'll just look to blitz themWe will bring Berbatov to add quality strength in depth to a forward line which needed more men. I doubt that SAF will be playing Rooney AND Tevez on the flanks just to accomodate all of three.
Not in my eyes. Even if that young striker brought roughly the skill set that both rooney and tevez dont have i wouldnt have been convinced. I never saw rooney and tevez as our long term partnership and neither does fergie...if he did he would be forking out extortionate storms..he'd be buying a roque banter cruz to add depth and decent quality at cheap prices.We could have gone away with it. I mean a quality young striker could have done the trick. With Ronaldo's leaving that is not the case. We need an inspirational figure who would be able to fill Ronaldo's boots.
Exactly. Let's get our striker now that we can and try to adapt our style before Ronaldo leaves that will happen in the future (1 or 2 years probably).We could have gone away with it. I mean a quality young striker could have done the trick. With Ronaldo's leaving that is not the case. We need an inspirational figure who would be able to fill Ronaldo's boots.
It was never not unlikely. If the fee really is as high as is being banded about its too much..and we have a real decision to make.To me, part of the reason that Berbatov makes sense is that it allows not to take up the option on Tevez if it turns out that it doesn't make sense to do so... which might seem unlikely now, but is possible if the likes of Manucho and Welbeck continue to develop.
We will sign Tevez, it's a matter of when, not if. Fergie and Gill have said as much (on numerous occasions)It was never not unlikely. If the fee really is as high as is being banded about its too much..and we have a real decision to make.
True. As long as he isn't amongst out top 3 forwards there is no real problem in keeping him around. Unless Fergei feek Campbell is ready to step up. Because Manucho is he gets the work permit will ened to get sued to the English game. So Saha can help him out in the 4th forward role.Agree with all of that.
Except the bit about Saha. If and when he's fit enough to play football, he can still make an impact.
Okay so you agree it has possibilities !!That has possibilities, but again it leaves us with problems. So many players to keep happy, or match sharp. Anderson and Nani need games to develop their potential. Maybe I'm worrying too much.
I suppose they are good problems to have. We have more tactical options than we're ever likely to need. In addition, if the worst happens and Ronaldo goes, we shouldn't miss him too terribly.
Doesn't convince me that Berbatov isn't an indulgence we could easily walk away from though.
Things had changed since we last talked. While in the past we could have got away with a good finisher (Santa Cruz type) because we always had Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney and Nani at his back, now our best player will be going. Such big loss will not be filled by bringing someone like Santa Cruz.
Finally came round aye devilish. Fair play for admitting it.
Nice formations... has a familiar, but good look !!I'd like too see this team next season (if Berbatov is signed)
------------------------VDS------------------------
Brown/Neville-----Rio-----------Vidic-------------Evra
----------Carrick/Hargo-------Anderson/Scholes-------
--Rooney---------------Tevez---------------Ronaldo--
-----------------------Berbatov----------------------
The 3 behind Berbatov can just roam around, swapping positions, even swapping with Berbatov at times. Would be
I would be surprised if Ronaldo remains till summer let alone in 2 years time. Cristiano is a unique player. He is a flank man capable of dribbling past players, cut deep, score 42 goals and convert many crosses into goals. You will not find someone like him in a million years. Therefore if he leaves then we have to change system and we need someone experienced to be able to fill his boots. Berbatov is one of the very few players capable of doing so.Exactly. Let's get our striker now that we can and try to adapt our style before Ronaldo leaves that will happen in the future (1 or 2 years probably).
In fact we will have our time to prove how good we are without Ronaldo even when he is not leaving and that's the 2 or 3 months he is gonna be out injured. I think this is a good time to prove ourselves.
And what are the consequences of these deals? Have previous 'bad deals' limited his future spending power? If anything, the fact that Fergie has another 20m+ to spend this summer indicates that there hasn't been any negative effect from these past transfer deals.The price is a concern. It has to be. Football clubs are businesses, and in 99% of all the deals ever made in history, one side gets the better of it. United rarely get the better of theirs.
I doubt you have enough information to draw the link between expensive transfers and ticket prices. United have lots of costs, and the high ticket prices go to paying many of those - transfer fees is just one. You MIGHT be right, but I highly doubt you have anywhere near enough information to say that we shouldn't sign Berbatov because then it will cost too much to go to games.Bilbo said:On one hand they want signings. Big, expensive Rolls Royce players. On the other hand, they want cheaper match tickets. These two things are not unrelated. You want one, then you won't get the other.
Nani has the potential to do what Ronaldo does. OK he won't score 42 goals, though I doubt whether Ronaldo would come close to that again, but Nani will probably create more than him.Cristiano is a unique player. He is a flank man capable of dribbling past players, cut deep, score 42 goals and convert many crosses into goals.
We need another winger if Ronaldo leaves, or an Aguero type player. Rooney and Tevez don't quite supply the penetration (excuse me) that Ronaldo does, we would need his direct running replaced. Maybe Anderson could play there, as the Chief says, he has pace and skill to burn.I would be surprised if Ronaldo remains till summer let alone in 2 years time. Cristiano is a unique player. He is a flank man capable of dribbling past players, cut deep, score 42 goals and convert many crosses into goals. You will not find someone like him in a million years. Therefore if he leaves then we have to change system and we need someone experienced to be able to fill his boots. Berbatov is one of the very few players capable of doing so.
Or potentially great midfielder, it's a dilemma, where do you play the dreaded blighter?You all seem to forget that we have a potentially incredible attacking player in Anderson.
Shhh, you can't say that around here without being called an "Anderson fan boy".You all seem to forget that we have a potentially incredible attacking player in Anderson.
He needs to sharpen up on his shooting and general effectiveness in the final third.I'd like to see him in a more attacking role, personally.
Yep, have a feeling that will be the team next season. Plus throw in some exciting cameos from Nani and Giggs, I really can't see us losing many games with that lineup.I'd like too see this team next season (if Berbatov is signed)
------------------------VDS------------------------
Brown/Neville-----Rio-----------Vidic-------------Evra
----------Carrick/Hargo-------Anderson/Scholes-------
--Rooney---------------Tevez---------------Ronaldo--
-----------------------Berbatov----------------------
The 3 behind Berbatov can just roam around, swapping positions, even swapping with Berbatov at times. Would be
Not a bad little rant. Robbie Keane's a way better goalscorer though nowhere near as good a player.Here we go again. Signing a striker that CANT hit 20+ goals a season. He's too old, too expensive and vastly overrated! We could do so much better. Robbie Keane is a better player than him FFS.
I agree with that, but Rooney would be as good a goalscorer, if not better than Keane if he were playing with Berbatov.Not a bad little rant. Robbie Keane's a way better goalscorer though nowhere near as good a player.
I reckon that if Ronaldo fecks off, Rooney will be seen to much better advantage playing with a proper centre forward and two more conventional wide players.I agree with that, but Rooney would be as good a goalscorer, if not better than Keane if he were playing with Berbatov.