Maybe, it would do so especially if nations tried to use it the same way they do with other sports.Mostly quality but also all the stuff behind the scenes that optimises performance at the highest level (PEDs excluded).
Maybe other sports have greater research and training but it appears football is becoming the no. 1 due to the money in the game. Clubs are now becoming super-specialised in their training. Things like Liverpool working with some group to improve their psychological state when taking penalties speaks to how specialised the training is becoming.
Premier league reportedly made 2.3 billion pounds last year, how much did the female equivalent of it did? That's just the reality of it.Errrr......over 90k twice have watched Barca's women play at the Camp Nou this very season, so I really don't see where you are coming from in terms of your point that it won't get close to anything the men's game generates.
Quality obviously not, that's just physically impossible. Look at the WNBA. Football requires less athleticism, but it still matters.Mostly quality but also all the stuff behind the scenes that optimises performance at the highest level (PEDs excluded).
I think he meant the quality of preparation , training etc etc.Quality obviously not, that's just physically impossible. Look at the WNBA. Football requires less athleticism, but it still matters.
The other stuff should be fairly easy to copy from the men's game.
For me the goal is to have it reach the level of women's tennis. It's still nowhere near but it's definitely catching up.Can women's football ever reach the level of men's?
Men's football is probably ahead of most sports in terms of athleticism, competition, research etc.
I wonder if Rugby or Cricket are even close to football in terms of conditioning, data science etc.
How is it insulting? It's just common sense. Keepers like Courtois (super athletic, 2m tall) will never exist in the women's game.The smaller goal idea was put to a load of female football players and they dismissed it and essentially called it insulting that a load of blokes were trying to change their game.
It is insulting, and it isn't practical. Female players playing at grassroots are going to play with standard goals. There are not going to be two sets. Surely they get used to the goal size when shooting?The smaller goal idea was put to a load of female football players and they dismissed it and essentially called it insulting that a load of blokes were trying to change their game.
Ones like Casillas and Valdez are achievable though. It's not remotely the case the you need to be 6'5 to be a good keeper in men's football.Keepers like Courtois (super athletic, 2m tall) will never exist in the women's game.
Barthez won the World Cup and a fair few other honours, and he wasn't exactly tall, this notion that you have to be ridiculously tall to be a good goalkeeper is somewhat outdated.Ones like Casillas and Valdez are achievable though. It's not remotely the case the you need to be 6'5 to be a good keeper in men's football.
Mediocre strikers like thisI don’t understand the rationale for having smaller goals in womens football. Women now are probably a similar size to men when the goal size was originally put in place and why would we want to change things so that there are less goals, which is the main thing people want to watch. If anything, there’s an argument that mens goals should be made larger now to reflect the fact that the average man is a giant compared to the 19th century.
That’s not remotely how the topic of discussion went.The smaller goal idea was put to a load of female football players and they dismissed it and essentially called it insulting that a load of blokes were trying to change their game.
You have it completely backwards. Keepers are taller than ever, and it's mostly because we now have goalkeepers who are both super tall and super athletic (as opposed to one or the other as it often was in the past).Barthez won the World Cup and a fair few other honours, and he wasn't exactly tall, this notion that you have to be ridiculously tall to be a good goalkeeper is somewhat outdated.
Women have a smaller arm span than men and players like Daniil Medvedev (super athletic, 2m tall) will never exist in the women's game. They should be playing on smaller courts.How is it insulting? It's just common sense. Keepers like Courtois (super athletic, 2m tall) will never exist in the women's game.
Women play less sets in tennis, is that insulting too?
So all sports are the same? Women also hit the ball much slower, so have more time to respond, which counters the disadvantages of reach (more so than in football).Women have a smaller arm span than men and players like Daniil Medvedev (super athletic, 2m tall) will never exist in the women's game. They should be playing on smaller courts.
It's just common sense.
Probably not but the men's game also had a 100 year head start and has had billions upon billions invested into the sport. There was a time when the FA banned clubs from essentially having affiliated women's teams. That ban stood for like 50 years until the 70's and even then its been severely underfunded especially in comparison the men's game. Just look at the improvement the men's game has made in the last 30 years alone and it shows what can happen with continous serious investment and, more importantly, time.Can women's football ever reach the level of men's?
Men's football is probably ahead of most sports in terms of athleticism, competition, research etc.
I wonder if Rugby or Cricket are even close to football in terms of conditioning, data science etc.
Surely the point is that there will be areas most female goalkeepers cannot reach? The average height of a woman is 6 inches shorter than the average man, so any shots going top corner are essentially impossible to stop. Men's keepers can barely get there as it is.It is insulting, and it isn't practical. Female players playing at grassroots are going to play with standard goals. There are not going to be two sets. Surely they get used to the goal size when shooting?
How can anyone watch yesterday's FA Cup final, and say this??Just like when you cheat on FM for a season with a super team for laughs, perfect season!
Personally don't enjoy women's football as a spectacle, don't think it really works from an entertainment perspective.
What's the game at the Allianz ?Yes, PSG has entered the scene. They won the league last season, and will get second reasonably close to Lyon this year.
Women's football is very young as a professional sport, and the development is rapid. And as in the men's game the resources are unevenly distributed, meaning that the big clubs have an even bigger advantage.
When we're talking about salary differences in the men's game it's filthy rich vs very rich. Here it's comfortable vs barely able to get by without a second job. The sport needs time to grow the talent pool.
The Allianz will be sold out next weekend, thankfully different people enjoy different things.
It was a great final between 2 great teams. Also when I watch that Barca team. They're so good. Super talented, extremely well coached and they play very, very entertaining football.How can anyone watch yesterday's FA Cup final, and say this??
That FA Cup final was the definition of pure entertainment.
No one knew for sure who was winning it until the final few minutes of extra time!
Man City's men's team have scored 5 or more goals in 11 games this season by my calculation, surely that is ridiculous, compare that to just 7 times by the Chelsea women's team, so one could say that it isn't in the women's game where the big scores are the issues.The false equivalency harms the women’s game and I don’t see why some still can’t see it. It’s almost like two entirely different sports with the same rules.
Turning a blind eye to the common ridiculous score lines whilst insisting on making favourable comparisons to the men’s game will do it more harm than good
Been banging that drum for years.Some aspects are simple, like the goalkeeper issue is largely a participation one, I think. The goalkeepers will get taller as there's a larger pool to pick from. There's enough 6ft women in the world, we just need more of them to pursue careers as goalkeepers.
Tall girls I find tend to opt for netball right now, which is a sport where being tall is I would say definitely an advantage, so if some of them were to opt for football instead, then that could change things.Been banging that drum for years.
It's obvious.
Per now there's a lot of tall girls who don't even consider football even if they're athletically inclined (so to speak) as such: they opt for other sports.
In order to have a pool with a bunch of players who are significantly taller than an average person (which is the case with male keepers), the popularity of the game itself has to be immense (and men's football is precisely that).
Gradually, as long as women's football keep growing, this will become less and less of a problem.
I don't think it'll take that long. You've gotta think the huge increase in attention during the last decade is gonna result in a generation of talent far beyond what we've seen previously, all across the pitch.Been banging that drum for years.
It's obvious.
Per now there's a lot of tall girls who don't even consider football even if they're athletically inclined (so to speak) as such: they opt for other sports.
In order to have a pool with a bunch of players who are significantly taller than an average person (which is the case with male keepers), the popularity of the game itself has to be immense (and men's football is precisely that).
Gradually, as long as women's football keep growing, this will become less and less of a problem.
Definitely in England. As a selfish football fan I look forward to the days women's netball has as strong a pull as men's.Tall girls I find tend to opt for netball right now, which is a sport where being tall is I would say definitely an advantage, so if some of them were to opt for football instead, then that could change things.
Any shot right in the top corner with sufficient pace is impossible to reach.Surely the point is that there will be areas most female goalkeepers cannot reach? The average height of a woman is 6 inches shorter than the average man, so any shots going top corner are essentially impossible to stop. Men's keepers can barely get there as it is.
Well as I mentioned before, I've seen multiple shots go in the middle of the goal, or just left/right of middle. Very saveable stuff in the men's game is just flying in when I watch women's football.Any shot right in the top corner with sufficient pace is impossible to reach.
I gather you're maybe trying to state that women can never reach the top corner due to physical limitations, but what is the inherent difference between mens and womens?
IMO it's only the power required in the shot, which men are more adept at producing. Everything is impossible to reach if the striker aims perfectly, it's never been the case that a goalkeeper always has a good chance of making the save for every scenario and that isn't a requirement for the game to be watchable. So why is it so important?
Also I think it's right to say that there are tall women. The game is still developing and once participation increases you'll have 6ft keepers being well rewarded. It will look slightly silly to have messed around with the goals rather than providing the platform that entices talent.
Yes, that could be.I don't think it'll take that long. You've gotta think the huge increase in attention during the last decade is gonna result in a generation of talent far beyond what we've seen previously, all across the pitch.
They can't be flying in that much, otherwise I'd expect to see the stats for goals to be much higher than they are. They're high, but not ridiculously so - it's still very much of the nature of football.Well as I mentioned before, I've seen multiple shots go in the middle of the goal, or just left/right of middle. Very saveable stuff in the men's game is just flying in when I watch women's football.
Champions League final, Barcelona vs Lyon. Unfortunately the Allianz only have room for a bit more than 40k, so we won't see the 90k+ crowds we've seen several times this year.What's the game at the Allianz ?
The men's game has money because people are prepared to pay £50 to £100 a month to watch it.
Though recently TV rights seem to have peaked and probably actually in decline. There are some fundamental problems with the structure of the sport on men's side.
For me they should look at changing the game on the women's side, it shouldn't be just a copy of the men's game.
May not be too popular opinion though!
Barcelona made 50,000 tickets available for free to club members (4 per member). The rest of the tickets were sold at prices ranging between 9 to 15 euros.Errrr......over 90k twice have watched Barca's women play at the Camp Nou this very season, so I really don't see where you are coming from in terms of your point that it won't get close to anything the men's game generates.
