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I said people like them, not those two exactly.Genuine question, who have They ruined before United?
I said people like them, not those two exactly.Genuine question, who have They ruined before United?
Another Woodward out discussion thread.I've had enough of people shoving all the blame on Ed Woodward and defending Ole with this whole "until Woodward resigns". Complete nonsense. I'm not here to say Woodward has done a great or even good job but it is nowhere near the incompetency Ole has shown.
Woodward backed every LVG transfer till the end. Backed Mourinho with all sorts of players he wanted that turned out to be garbage. Mourinho was not backed for one season because of his failed transfer record. Yes Woodward made a mistake giving Mourinho that long contract and I said it back then as well but at the time it did make sense.
Now he has made (in hindsight) the mistake of appointing Ole but put yourself in Woodwards shoes. Imagine not giving Ole the contract back then and getting another manager in who may also have failed. We would have slaughtered Woodward for "what could have been" with how Ole was winning every game. Still, Woodward does take some blame for not giving him a shorter contract or waiting till the end of the season.
When it comes to summer 2019 transfers I simply do not understand how Ed Woodward is getting the blame. Time and time again, press conference after press conference Ole has shown his naive approach when it comes to judging players. Ole truly believed we would be fine going in this season with youth like Greenwood and Perreira. Okay, Wan Bissaka Maguire and James are good transfers but they cost a fortune -- any of us could have known Wan Bissaka or Maguire would be good fits. A top manager would (such as Poch) would find a low price bargain. Someone like a Soyuncu.
Ole chose to let Fellaini and Lukaku go and replace them with youngsters from the academy. If Ole identified targets such as Dybala, Bale and/or Modric and the board failed to get them that is not the boards fault. Identifying world class players can be done by any of us on here. The manager failing to identify realistic targets is another blunder on his part.
Furthermore, Woodward is not to blame for Ole playing Perreira on the wings, Mata on the right and back three's when we don't need it.
Yeah feck Woodward but Ole's failure has nothing to do with him. We can be a very successful club even with a shitty board.
I don’t blame Woodward as much as some on here. At the end of the day he is an employee just like the manager and it’s becoming increasingly more apparent that he is having to work to a very tight budget.
If Ed leaves today an almost identical replacement would be found and we’d still have the same problems.
The real problem is the fecking Glazers. Nothing will change until they feck off.
Im not saying Woodward is blameless. Not at all. But I do think that a lot of fans are deluding themselves with this belief that replacing Woodward solves most of our problems.
It’s obvious that he is enacting out their wishes to the letter. These are ruthless businessmen and they would have no issues in getting rid of Woodward if he wasn’t doing exactly what they wanted. He’s still here so they are obviously happy with him.
You sure about that? Only those who wanted United to win at all costs wanted him anywhere near the club.I'm not excusing Woody, but he backed the managers untill it became obvious how much money was wasted. I think Woody needs to go as well, but no one was unhappy with him hiring Van Gaal at the time, and no was unhappy about him hiring Mourinho. He backed the managers in their first 2 seasons and there's hardly a player worth showing for it.
The Glazers are no doubt the root of the problem, but the way Ed has handled contracts and transfers makes him unfit as well.I don’t blame Woodward as much as some on here. At the end of the day he is an employee just like the manager and it’s becoming increasingly more apparent that he is having to work to a very tight budget.
If Ed leaves today an almost identical replacement would be found and we’d still have the same problems.
The real problem is the fecking Glazers. Nothing will change until they feck off.
Im not saying Woodward is blameless. Not at all. But I do think that a lot of fans are deluding themselves with this belief that replacing Woodward solves most of our problems.
It’s obvious that he is enacting out their wishes to the letter. These are ruthless businessmen and they would have no issues in getting rid of Woodward if he wasn’t doing exactly what they wanted. He’s still here so they are obviously happy with him.
The job was offered to 6 managers before Moyes but no one would take it.Let's not rewrite history
Moyes is 100% on SAF
To be fair, Ed listened to the football god that is SAF and it doesn't bode well.
And you believe that? Honestly?The job was offered to 6 managers before Moyes but no one would take it.
Yes Pep, Ancelotti, Mourinho and Klopp have all mentioned it in interviews in the past.And you believe that? Honestly?
You think Moyes was number 1 choice? Bloody hell. Even Ancelotti was offered it but was going MadridAnd you believe that? Honestly?
You'd think there's any chance david moyes would enter in any shortlist if its based on professional and objective filter?You think Moyes was number 1 choice? Bloody hell. Even Ancelotti was offered it but was going Madrid
There was in effect nobody calibrewise left to ask.You'd think there's any chance david moyes would enter in any shortlist if its based on professional and objective filter?