This! Even when there are delays in rugby, you don't feel it cos you know exactly what's going on. Like you said, hard to think football selects out less intelligent people as referees. You just need the right procedures to get them doing the right things, at least most of the time. Even when the TMO in rugby says they can't change a Ref's decision for lack of evidence, it's clear to everyone. Blue cards will just give the Refs something else to screw up with the current set up.
Blue Cards to be introduced which will send players to the Sin Bin
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Not enough destroying football last two decades? Let's destroy it some more.
Ridiculous. People coming up with this nonsens shouldn't be allowed to work with football.
Ridiculous. People coming up with this nonsens shouldn't be allowed to work with football.
That would be two yellows with the current rules surely already? From what I’ve read, blue is a yellow with a 10min absence from the match. So something you would have gotten a yellow for anyway.
Manchester United does not dominate possession in most of our matches
And yes, that is true that they dominate possession. Is there an acceptable number of fouls/minute out of possession? The stats do say that they commit the least amount of fouls per season. That's not a bad thing, unless you think only tactical fouls are bad.
Load of bollocks.
This is something that could generally make me stop watching
they can’t get a grip on 2 cards this will make every match a farce
feck right off and take VAR with you
they can’t get a grip on 2 cards this will make every match a farce
feck right off and take VAR with you
VAR checks for a possible blue card
Fans rush to the bars
Fans rush to the bars
Presumably if a player is shown a Blue Card and sent to the sin bin the 10 minutes doesnt start until any VAR check is complete
Think it’s a great idea personally. I’ve been calling for sin bin when a player stops a counter attack. It’s worth more than a yellow to me. It’s basically Pep’s tactic defensively. Surround the player with the ball and bring him down.
Another addition to ruin the game
What happens if you get a blue card when you already have a yellow card and what happens if you get two blue cards or a blue card followed by a yellow?
What happens when a keeper gets a blue card
Atl Madrid will be playing most games with 6 men then.
The manager replaces him in net.
This is going to be a complete farce, won't it?
Good idea in principle. It'll certainly make players rethink their fouling tactics. But, the implementation has to spot on. Which will be frustrating to say the least.
At least we can count on constant moaning about how that wasn't a cynical foul (even though it clearly was). Just one more talking point for the pundits.
At least we can count on constant moaning about how that wasn't a cynical foul (even though it clearly was). Just one more talking point for the pundits.
If you get a blue card do you get 10% discount on ticket prices and coffee?
Cynical fouls I’m in agreement with but if implemented badly could be a dreadful change.
I think it’s too harsh of a punishment for dissent and would give refs a bit too much power over a lack of accountability for poor refereeing. I don’t like that one at all.
I think it’s too harsh of a punishment for dissent and would give refs a bit too much power over a lack of accountability for poor refereeing. I don’t like that one at all.
I would like some orange cards for players with silly haircuts
Sorry you have to head to the hair dresser before coming back onto the pitch
Sorry you have to head to the hair dresser before coming back onto the pitch
wont happen
You think so? To me those 'smart' or 'professional fouls' ruin part of the game for me. Those fouls that end a very promising attack but the offender will just get away with it. This whole topic is filled with Rodri remarks. People here were always complaining that Fernandinho got away with everything. But the same people are against this blue card idea? Some kind of reaction to this kind of defending is good in my opinion.
Getting a yellow card is a good trade for preventing a promising attack. Referees are usual more lenient when a player on a yellow fouls again, you hardly ever see a player get a second yellow for a professional foul or when that player had already picked up a yellow from an earlier professional foul. Atleast when a player is removed from the pitch, even if it is only for a short period off time, it does have an impact.
Exhibit B @Pogue Mahone
See how insane the concept of introducing a card related to a single tactic is ridiculous?? I don't think the tactical foul is akin to the backpass
The denial from FIFA that the introduction of a blue card is in the works should probably be included in thread title now.
Makes sense the color is blue because City is the garbage of football and full of sins.
What happeny if you dissent in a language the ref doesnt understand?
What exactly are you trying to show with your exhibits? Please include the rest of us too?
Not a good idea. We have seen countless discussions about a yellow that should have been a red, and a red that was too harsh. If they add a blue card, it will become a mess.
Hope not serious
This will just put more spotlight on the wildly inconsistent nature of bookings that we already see. Teams getting the rough end of the stick will just be even more fecked over. I'n already dreading our games with Michael Oliver enough as it is.
Minute 80, 2-1 down, trying to get back in it. Striker goes down in the box, ref issues blue card and game is all but dead.
Same day, same scenario but different teams involved and a penalty is awarded for the exact same "dive". 2-2 and a grandstand finish.
You know it will happen and everyone will think it happens to them more often than others.
They don't VAR check yellows so they're not VAR checkig these blue yokes
Going off the exact same system, apart from the colour, they've implemented in Irish football and hurling a few years back, two of the blue bastards or a blue and a yellow are a red.
Nice idea in theory, but it will be the implementation that will be the issue. They really need to mic up the ref's like in other sports, as that will likely resolve a lot of the issues we are currently seeing with breaks in the game etc.
Exactly. Mic them up and release the audio.
You’ve got a lot of interesting points in your comment but I’ll reply explicitly to the cynical foul point, admittedly I don’t actually advocate for the “blue” card because in my opinion it sounds fecking ridiculous and leaves too much open to interpretation. But I don’t digress from my original point, I think teams like City and Liverpool have made liberal use of “tactical fouls” to prevent attacks to aid them in defence over the last few years, knowing it would only result in a yellow card. Like I said, I am genuinely interested to see City and Liverpool’s approach now this tactic is supposedly being countered.
Just get rid of it all. Isn’t it strange that the more technology we get the worse the sport gets. The more new rules we get the football gets even more infuriating. The only thing I complained about years ago was the decisions in a match that happened bang bang and then forgotten. It’s also just another layer of pressure put upon the refs which in turn will just cause more angst amongst supporters. What sane person would even think of supporting this.
You would say this as a Liverpool fan though. Fabinho was up there with Fernandinho as one of the most cynical players in the league when it came to stopping counter attacks. I still can't get over the fact that he didn't get a single red card in his time in England.