Bowling for Columbine

[mathiaslg]

Originally posted by geordie1:
<strong>And which arguments were those? He made a couple of good points, but he didn't really come to a conclusion.
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He also manipulates his facts to suit his own purpose, which is ironic given his criticism of the media I should say.

 

[mr. destro]

Originally posted by mathiaslg:
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He also manipulates his facts to suit his own purpose, </strong><hr></blockquote>

sounds like the bush administration (and every other one, admittedly)

 

[mathiaslg]

Originally posted by mr. destro:
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sounds like the bush administration (and every other one, admittedly)</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sounds like everyone for god's sake, but since we are critical of Bush and co. for doing so, why not be critical of a Mid-Western Populist as well.

 

[JSV]

Originally posted by mr. destro:
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local news is even worse, "up next at 6, 18 and a third reasons why eating grapefruits COULD cause you to think twice about leaving your house" delivered with all the feigned concern of a bad actor

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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Brilliant. Although i'd argue the local news in any country is excruciatingly bad.

 

[mr. destro]

Originally posted by mathiaslg:
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Sounds like everyone for god's sake, but since we are critical of Bush and co. for doing so, why not be critical of a Mid-Western Populist as well.</strong><hr></blockquote>

'at's the point, it shouldn't be surprising that moore manipulates to make his claim

 

[geordie1]

Originally posted by mr. destro:
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have to disagree there sir, the american media is insane when it comes to peddling the paranoia. pre-9/11 or 11/9 i remember seeing a prime-time cbs news story on the dangers of diving into pools and getting paralyzed from the neck down. this was on one of the biggest news stations in the country.. ffs, that's not news, that's just drivel

local news is even worse, "up next at 6, 18 and a third reasons why eating grapefruits COULD cause you to think twice about leaving your house" delivered with all the feigned concern of a bad actor

it's really really bad, worse than you can imagine, i promise.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I suppose I'll have to defer to you on this then.

I still can't say that I was convinced about any correlation between this culture and the large amounts of murders... the murders certainly feed the culture, but I don't think he was very convincing at proving that it works the other way too.

 

[Rams]

Originally posted by mr. destro:
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have to disagree there sir, the american media is insane when it comes to peddling the paranoia. pre-9/11 or 11/9 i remember seeing a prime-time cbs news story on the dangers of diving into pools and getting paralyzed from the neck down. this was on one of the biggest news stations in the country.. ffs, that's not news, that's just drivel

local news is even worse, "up next at 6, 18 and a third reasons why eating grapefruits COULD cause you to think twice about leaving your house" delivered with all the feigned concern of a bad actor

it's really really bad, worse than you can imagine, i promise.</strong><hr></blockquote>

that's what Moore pointed out....

 

[Wibble]

Originally posted by Jade:
<strong>i hear u wibs..we dont live in a vacuum...but i still fail to see how gun laws here affect u guys.I could see if we were insisting u must have guns,but i dont think thats the case.From what you and neil have said on the subject..id say your battle is more with the entertainment industry..gangsta rap and such (which btw more than a few on here seem to LOVE)so what are u saying? u like the thought but not the reality that goes with it?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Music/Media are a reflection of society/culture to some degree. The US therefore has a huge influence on many cultures/countries.

I hate guns with a passion. If humans have no weapons they will hit each other, if they have knives they will stab each other, if they have guns they will shoot each other and if tactical nukes were available they would probably use them as well.

I would like to see all countries outlaw all guns with a few minor exceptions (Armed Forces etc). Since there are already hundreds of millions of in the US already and with no sign of meaningful gun reform this is all pie in the sky anyway. Other countries have gun problems as well so I'm not saying that it is a purely US problem (or solution).

 

[Rams]

Ive got it!

you know what the yanks should do?

legalize marijuana and make guns ilegal

 

[mr. destro]

Originally posted by Rams:
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that's what Moore pointed out....</strong><hr></blockquote>

yes indeedy i've seen the movie and posted this topic on it about 4 months ago

 

[Jade]

hey rams..grand idea! if they want to make that trade off,im all for it.

 

[Rams]

Originally posted by mr. destro:
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yes indeedy i've seen the movie and posted this topic on it about 4 months ago</strong><hr></blockquote>

yeah, yeah, there's always a clever dick around aint there....