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He’s a brilliant player and this could be similar to when Liverpool signed Mane imo.

My only concern would be how we fit Amad in. I don’t see him as a RWB and he’s too good not to play.
There's no reason why they can't play in the same team if both are fit, with Amad at RWB.

That's his best position anyway. He's going to get into better 1 vs 1 situations and overlap.

Mbeumo has to be at number 10 if he signs because he's ridiculously quick and also strong carrying the ball.
 
There's no reason why they can't play in the same team if both are fit, with Amad at RWB.

That's his best position anyway. He's going to get into better 1 vs 1 situations and overlap.

Mbeumo has to be at number 10 if he signs because he's ridiculously quick and also strong carrying the ball.

Mbeumo and Amad are a bad combo.

Both left footed, both will want to cut inside. So where it your width and overlap coming from?

We need a right footed right wing back. Amad is not a long term fit there.
 
Mbeumo and Amad are a bad combo.

Both left footed, both will want to cut inside. So where it your width and overlap coming from?

We need a right footed right wing back. Amad is not a long term fit there.
What about Walker-Peters on a free?
 
We've surely got enough 10's with Cunha arriving.

A right wingback(it won't be Amad), striker, CM, goalkeeper must be a bigger priority.
It's like saying we already have five central midfielders so why buy another. Casemiro, Bruno, Ugarte, Mainoo, Collyer. Or that we have four RWB already in Amad, Dalot, Mazraoui and Dorgu.

Having the numbers for a position isn't the same as having the quality in a position. Especially when some of those numbers will also be playing in other positions.

Striker is obviously the biggest priority (and we're definitely going to be signing someone there) with the left #10 being next (with it looking almost certain we're getting Cunha). After that I'd say we have multiple different positions of roughly equal importance, with the right #10 being one of those.

Even with this signing I would expect we'd still sign a CM and keeper. RWB probably not, as I always expected us to sign either a RWB or a R10 (with Amad mostly playing in the other).

Amorim hasn't played him there much has he? He did at first and that was pretty much the end of it. If he saw Adam as his RWB back going forwards you'd think he'd have played there all those season.
Or it may have been due to Amad being the only remotely decent attacker we had so Amorim felt we needed him closer to goal. That may change once we get other players who can contribute to the attack, which seems to likely be the plan if the links to Mbeumo are real.
 
Mbeumo and Amad are a bad combo.

Both left footed, both will want to cut inside. So where it your width and overlap coming from?

We need a right footed right wing back. Amad is not a long term fit there.
Amad at R10 and Antony at RWB worked well the few brief times we saw it. They interchanged quite a lot as they attacked and pulled the defenders around. I do think it's important that both players can go either way and cut inside or go wide, and that should be the case with Amad and Mbeumo.
 
I saw some of Mbeumo’s highlights for Cameroon and he looked comfortable in wingback positions, his skillset is more than attacking threat.
 
Mbeumo and Amad are a bad combo.

Both left footed, both will want to cut inside. So where it your width and overlap coming from?

We need a right footed right wing back. Amad is not a long term fit there.
I thought about this same point, but then remembered that at Sporting, Amorim had Quenda as RWB and Trincao as the right 10 (both left footed), and it worked well for them.

Despite the left-footedness, Amad has shown willingness to go outside, and skip in along the byline/towards the six-yard box, then open his body to pick out a target from that area (see Hojlund's goal against Athletic Club in the second leg). There's still a threat for overlapping outside with Amad, even when Mbuemo offers the movement inside (or potentially vice versa).
 
This is from Opta's TOTS article:

His work rate is also worth mentioning. He made almost 100 more off-the-ball runs (1,037) than any other player in the Premier League in 2024-25, while only Bruno Guimarães (420.0 km) and Daniel Muñoz (389.5 km) covered more ground than him (387.6 km). He also ranked third for total sprints (870), and top for off-the-ball runs made at sprinting speed (389).


Some pretty absurd numbers for a player with his level of attacking output. When you factor in his availability (34+ starts in 3 of his 4 PL campaigns) it's clear the man is a workaholic.

I've made this point in the Cunha thread but it fits even better for Mbeumo: knowing that an outfield player is durable enough to play 30+ games in the Premier League practically every year is extremely valuable. We've pretty much just got Bruno and Dalot who offer that in the squad, with it being possible to make a case for a couple of others. It's even more important when one of your goals is to trim your squad. You'd like reliable players everywhere but it's gold to have reliable attackers. Cunha plus Mbeumo would be huge in that regard.
 
What happend when both him and Amad head off to AFCON?
We play other players for the 1-4 games they're off, same as we would do with anyone who was unavailable for any other reason. If we're being honest, it isn't guaranteed that Amad is picked; Ivory Coast are pretty stacked.
 
Mbeumo and Amad are a bad combo.

Both left footed, both will want to cut inside. So where it your width and overlap coming from?

We need a right footed right wing back. Amad is not a long term fit there.
We literally have only ONE left footed winger in the squad, Mbeumo would be a no brainer if attainable. They both can absolutely play in the same line-up, you clearly have no idea how Sporting played, almost always with lefties at RAM and RWB.

Also, Amad has shown multiple times this season that he can go on either side of the fullback and is at his best when attacking from wide.
 
I am calling it - this is bullshit story and never happening, for the simple reason that we clearly dont have money to fund this.

We obviously need to sign a striker and a goalkeeper before we would even entertain somebody in his position. And even for these higher priority positions we dont have money to sign somebody as expensive as him

Do the math. Fans are being played here with a non-story news
 
So Romano cooled it down really, saying we do have interest, but not only us, and we're dependant on sales.
He wasn't cooling it down. He was confirming our interest. Of course other clubs are interested. Why wouldn't they be? Yes, we do need sales because we are also signing Cunha and a striker.
 
I am calling it - this is bullshit story and never happening, for the simple reason that we clearly dont have money to fund this.

We obviously need to sign a striker and a goalkeeper before we would even entertain somebody in his position. And even for these higher priority positions we dont have money to sign somebody as expensive as him

Do the math. Fans are being played here with a non-story news
Nope. We absolutely are interested. However, we need sales and we need him to choose us. He's leaning towards Newcastle.
 
I am calling it - this is bullshit story and never happening, for the simple reason that we clearly dont have money to fund this.

We obviously need to sign a striker and a goalkeeper before we would even entertain somebody in his position. And even for these higher priority positions we dont have money to sign somebody as expensive as him

Do the math. Fans are being played here with a non-story news
This is happening if Rashford, Antony, sancho and maybe Garnacho are leaving. We ain’t selling 4 attackers and only bringing in 1.
 
This is happening if Rashford, Antony, sancho and maybe Garnacho are leaving. We ain’t selling 4 attackers and only bringing in 1.
If the timing aligns. If we end up selling all of those, it'll likely take a while. There's every chance someone picked up Mbeumo before we manage to generate the funds
 
If the timing aligns. If we end up selling all of those, it'll likely take a while. There's every chance someone picked up Mbeumo before we manage to generate the funds
Fair point. But we’ll still sign someone els then. Possibly 2 10a and a ST. We’re after a new front line.
 
I think Garnacho will be a better but similar style player in 2 years so I'd be unexcited if this was his replacement
 
I am calling it - this is bullshit story and never happening, for the simple reason that we clearly dont have money to fund this.

We obviously need to sign a striker and a goalkeeper before we would even entertain somebody in his position. And even for these higher priority positions we dont have money to sign somebody as expensive as him

Do the math. Fans are being played here with a non-story news
Were getting a striker. And we are selling Garnacho.
 
I think Garnacho will be a better but similar style player in 2 years so I'd be unexcited if this was his replacement
Maybe, maybe not. But I don't think we can afford to carry a young player as one of our main forwards who is so poor/inconsistent with his output for another 2 seasons on the chance he does make that level up. We're in dire straits, immediate change is needed.

Mbeumo right now is just a better player - stronger, better footwork, more efficient in front of goal. Makes sense to sell potential to get a reliable player at a good age like Mbeumo.
 
Maybe, maybe not. But I don't think we can afford to carry a young player as one of our main forwards who is so poor/inconsistent with his output for another 2 seasons on the chance he does make that level up. We're in dire straits, immediate change is needed.

Mbeumo right now is just a better player - stronger, better footwork, more efficient in front of goal. Makes sense to sell potential to get a reliable player at a good age like Mbeumo.

Mbeumo is certainly better but I doubt he'll repeat this season. Think he'd get 12-13 goals and around 4-5 assists and I dont think thats beyond Garnacho either. Still less likely than Mbeumo
 
Maybe, maybe not. But I don't think we can afford to carry a young player as one of our main forwards who is so poor/inconsistent with his output for another 2 seasons on the chance he does make that level up. We're in dire straits, immediate change is needed.

Mbeumo right now is just a better player - stronger, better footwork, more efficient in front of goal. Makes sense to sell potential to get a reliable player at a good age like Mbeumo.
Garnacho should never be the main forward for a top club at this age. That is our mistake and since we have fecked up our finances so badly now, we need to sell a young winger with excellent potential for new signings.

It’s unfortunate that is the situation but not sure how it is considered so palatable by many of our fans.
 
Garnacho should never be the main forward for a top club at this age.
Agreed, and not only that but hyped as our starboy. It's not fair and he just isn't good enough yet. It also contributes to the brattish entitlement he's showing. Yet another example of our terrible squad management.
 
Agreed, and not only that but hyped as our starboy. It's not fair and he just isn't good enough yet. It also contributes to the brattish entitlement he's showing. Yet another example of our terrible squad management.
The issue is so many are fine with a young potential being sold because there is no other way to get our squad fixed. The current coach has fecked up our season so badly, that we have now had our hands tied behind our back.
 
Watch Cunha his passing and vision is better than Mbuemo, he looks like he can be more creative but he needs to work on his final ball. He overhits the through ball but hes actually created a lot of chances at Wolves this season. Mbuemo creates usually from his crosses.

Also I did say we keep Bruno
it is not a bad idea to have someone be more direct (Mbeumo) and someone be more creative (Cunha), we will still need directness and shots to be taken.
 
The issue is so many are fine with a young potential being sold because there is no other way to get our squad fixed. The current coach has fecked up our season so badly, that we have now had our hands tied behind our back.
The issue is that we can't use Garnacho as anything other than a starter because him and 'his team' whinge when he doesn't play.

Either you choose to hurt your side by consistently starting a sub-standard player or you sell him. There is no other way.
 
Mbeumo and Amad are a bad combo.

Both left footed, both will want to cut inside. So where it your width and overlap coming from?

We need a right footed right wing back. Amad is not a long term fit there.
Not a long term fit there even though his best games have been there. Quenda at sporting was a left footed rwb who played very similar to Amad, people need to grasp how Amorim plays rather than what they want to happen
 
If we have Amad & Mbeumo competing for the right-sided AM, then it means we will have a healthy competition and a strong bench, Amorim will have options to change the game from the bench.

We need competition in the squad.
 
I think Garnacho will be a better but similar style player in 2 years so I'd be unexcited if this was his replacement
Ye but one of thems willing to give us goals and assist right now. We can’t afford to wait 2 years to have a decent player who puts up the numbers
 
Not sure of his general ability - looks alright but nothing special - but his finishing appears to be really great. Looks a good addition if we don’t overspend.
 
I think Garnacho will be a better but similar style player in 2 years so I'd be unexcited if this was his replacement
Is Mbuemo also a terrible passer? Because Garnacho is only decent as an impact player and will be until he can develop his football brain, learn to play with others and pass the ball. Given he’s not suited to the formation either, I’m not sure it makes sense to wait.

Ideally we’d get someone much better than this chap, I agree. At least someone with a higher ceiling but I also understand if Amorim thinks he’s tactically a good fit and ready to perform.
 
I am calling it - this is bullshit story and never happening, for the simple reason that we clearly dont have money to fund this.

We obviously need to sign a striker and a goalkeeper before we would even entertain somebody in his position. And even for these higher priority positions we dont have money to sign somebody as expensive as him

Do the math. Fans are being played here with a non-story news
We have a lot of players leaving, set to leave and not in future plans. I'm guessing INEOS is trying to get players in early instead of waiting to complete sales first. The latter has always burnt us before. All the best teams finish their business early on, Liverpool being a prime example.
 
Is Mbuemo also a terrible passer? Because Garnacho is only decent as an impact player and will be until he can develop his football brain, learn to play with others and pass the ball. Given he’s not suited to the formation either, I’m not sure it makes sense to wait.

Ideally we’d get someone much better than this chap, I agree. At least someone with a higher ceiling but I also understand if Amorim thinks he’s tactically a good fit and ready to perform.
I think Cherki has a much higher ceiling, and is more talented among the two. But Mbuemo has proven to be so consistent over multiple seasons and is a hard worker off the ball too. Would be the "safer" signing.
 
I’d love to see this done. People can blame a multitude of issues for this season but by far the biggest one is the quality off our attack. We desperately needed a complete overhaul. Cunha, Delap and Mbuemo completely transform the technical and physical profile of our attack and would make us far more competitive.
 
The issue is that we can't use Garnacho as anything other than a starter because him and 'his team' whinge when he doesn't play.

Either you choose to hurt your side by consistently starting a sub-standard player or you sell him. There is no other way.
I bet a better man-manager could handle that much better. You would think Garnacho is the first young footballer who wants to start every game. If his tweets are the only reason, we are looking to sell then it’s worse than the financial aspect of it.
 
I bet a better man-manager could handle that much better. You would think Garnacho is the first young footballer who wants to start every game. If his tweets are the only reason, we are looking to sell then it’s worse than the financial aspect of it.
He's been given ample opportunity to play and has consistently underwhelmed. He really should have been humble, knuckled down and improved his game. Instead, we are subjected to an ego and entitlement without anything to back it up.

You can blame the club for indulging these young players and giving them too much too soon. At United there is a culture that young players who fly from the academy to the first team are superstars. Luckily, Mainoo appears more grounded.
 
He's been given ample opportunity to play and has consistently underwhelmed. He really should have been humble, knuckled down and improved his game. Instead, we are subjected to an ego and entitlement without anything to back it up.

You can blame the club for indulging these young players and giving them too much too soon. At United there is a culture that young players who fly from the academy to the first team are superstars. Luckily, Mainoo appears more grounded.
Yeah that's nonsense. Also again the lazy trope, he's one of the hardest working players we have.