We still have a great chance of making the top 4, but it's far from easy.
Bye bye top 4
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What a negative thread….relax…..
We have dropped so many stupid points this season that I think it's going to be very hard to get top 4. A point today wasn't that bad at all but it's against the likes of Burnley and Leicester, that we have dropped stupid points. The way we are playing doesn't fill me with any confidence, though. We have a very very hard task on our hands and missing out again will be seriously depressing.
I don't think it's overly negative bearing in mind the absolute gash we've been serving up.
We don't have a style of play because we don't have enough pace and power in our attack to have a style of play. Only in the summer can we get the players we need to have a style of play again. On current form all of our rivals for 3rd and 4th place are playing way way better than we are because they all have the required pace and power in attack and are much nicer to watch than we are right now. I can't see us finishing in the top 4 because we are just not creating enough chances up front because the likes of Falcao, Mata, Herrera, Januzaj etc are al not currently good enough
Blind faith served us well today
We have a fantastic chance for a top 4 finish.
Thats more to do with the opposition around us rather than ourselves though which is the worrying thing.
Thats more to do with the opposition around us rather than ourselves though which is the worrying thing.
We havent lost much at home.. and even away.. Most of the games at home we are winning.. that is the hope i have of securing 4th.. Tough but possible..
We are not lucky to be where we are...
People forget that horrible start to the season. We lost to Swansea, Leicester and drawed against Sunderland and Burnley that is 2/12 against teams that I have no doubt in the second round we'll easily get 10 or 12 points against. That start to the season has been the difference for us between being 4th now or actually being second and 3 points ahead of city.
Not to mention the games versus Stoke and Villa where we clearly didnt get what we deserved.
Our attacking play isnt good enough but LVG has managed to make is very difficult to beat. No team scores easy againt us partly because of the brilliance from DDG but also because we dominate possession and have control over most games and our organization works from a defensive point of view. The thing is if we manage to score a goal or two we usually end up winning most games or atleast drawing. That makes us a consistent team in terms of racking up points and will see us in the top 4 no doubt about it. In fact I think we are nailed on to be third and if City keep on dropping points the way they are doing now they beter be carefull we dont end up thrumping them to second place.
It is not pretty and it is not exciting we get the job done atm. In fact the only horrible period we have had has been the sart, we had such an easy start and due to a myriad of reasons we only got like 2/12. If you forget about that false start we have actually raked up enough points over the rest of the season to be competing for the title. It is those 8 points that is having us on 4th place atm. I dont see any reason why we wouldn't be able to do what we did in the first half of the season and improve on it.
You kind of asked for it by starting a thread like that when we are currently sat in that said top 4.
I don't think we're going to get top 4 on current form
The team selection and tactics are mystifying at times and its hard to see us finishing ahead of Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool unless we improve drastically - we have a tough run in so days like today are crucial - instead today we barely created a chance against their makeshift defence until the last 30 mins
We are relying on two of Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal dropping off and it will be tough - all 3 look far more settled and cohesive than us
The op has gotten a bit of grief but people are in denial if they think we can continue like this and still finish top 4
The team selection and tactics are mystifying at times and its hard to see us finishing ahead of Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool unless we improve drastically - we have a tough run in so days like today are crucial - instead today we barely created a chance against their makeshift defence until the last 30 mins
We are relying on two of Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal dropping off and it will be tough - all 3 look far more settled and cohesive than us
The op has gotten a bit of grief but people are in denial if they think we can continue like this and still finish top 4
I suppose the one benefit of when you're competing for a top 4 spot is that you don't have to be on form all season as you generally have to do when you're challenging for the title. If you're challenging for the title, not winning a game equates to a drop in form. Arsenal have proven many times that when you look set to be written off for a top 4 spot that you can still make it with a consistent run towards the end.
The main problem is we're not going to get there with the way Van Gaal currently has us playing.
The main problem is we're not going to get there with the way Van Gaal currently has us playing.
Top 4? Definitely. I think Chelsea, City and United in that order. 4th could be any between Arsenal, Spurs.
There have been a lot more games where we got more than we deserved.
Making this thread in February isn't knee-jerk at all.
We can beat Burnley and Sunderland at home and a win at Swansea isn't that unlikely. We could be looking at 5 wins out of 6 with the one being a draw away to West Ham, that would not be a bad run of results. Just typical overreaction on here.
The issue with us is that our manager jumps from one blunder to another, if it's not a shit formation then it's a silly line up or both. I can't believe that someone was crazy enough to think that a midfield of Rooney, Di Maria, Januzaj and Blind actually had a fighting chance away at West Ham. These mistakes have already cost us a large number of points. Next game watch him over compensate for this error by going to another extreme in the same way that his 5-3-2 gave way to this one man midfield madness.
Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs look a lot more organised and a hell of a lot more dangerous than we do at the moment. If I was putting money on it now, I would not back us to come in the top 4. Major improvement is needed. We have been lucky so far with other clubs not playing well. Liverpool in particular have been excellent recently. They will catch us if we don't improve.
Especially since we're currently 4th with 2 points above our main rival for that place and 3rd is a Soton side that will fade away with a perenial bottlers at 5th.
This thread is ban worthy for at least a week.
Pathetic
But this time we clearly are difficult to beat. That talk never really materialised last season.1 loss in 17
Van Gaal made us difficult to beat (sounds familiar?)
Genuine question: how deep is Southampton in the view of the PL fans here.
They keep staying around. Could they really make the top4, top 3 even?
They keep staying around. Could they really make the top4, top 3 even?
Stupid thread
We are still in it, but if I was betting I wouldn't put money on us to make it. I just don't think we have what it takes and the LVG myth just isn't bearing any fruit.
This s what im talking about with my thread. How old are you? Im serious, are you young or just immature?
Liverpool and West Ham aren't really in the challenge, IMO. It's all about us, Spurs, Arse and Southampton and Southampton and Spurs don't have the experience sorry to say. Top four should be achievable. If we don't get top four, it's bye bye Van Gaal.
We better sort out our away form/performances soon. Next five away games:
Swansea
Newcastle
Liverpool
Chelsea
Everton
No easy wins there, but somehow we need to gather a good amount of points from these games, plus two difficult home games against Spurs and City.
Swansea
Newcastle
Liverpool
Chelsea
Everton
No easy wins there, but somehow we need to gather a good amount of points from these games, plus two difficult home games against Spurs and City.
We should pack it in for the season then and start again in august?
Europa League won't be all that bad. Honest.
Laughable thread. OP must be fecking 12 years old.
Until we get our asses slapped by some Europa level clubs
I don't think we will get top 4. Our run between March and May is dreadful to look at even though we could possibly gain ground on some teams in direct clashes. Spurs have been in great form, Southampton are holding on, Liverpool are playing much better than us and Arsenal are a better team. It will go down the wire but I don't have particularly high expectations now.
What country are we travelling to for our Pre-season games?
The last three there are pretty awful despite Everton's form, they'll be right up for that. Id expect us to win the first two but we'll have to get lucky going off our recent away form. We HAVE to start playing better away from home and quickly, it's an absolute necessity.
Just here to say goodbye again
Only just seen this thread...
Haven't got much to say but
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Haven't got much to say but
.The fact that Liverpool have City and Soton next (I believe?) is the only thing giving me any hope.
Its looking rough
Spurs losing is probably the best result. Win tomorrow and we go 4 and 5 point ahead of Spurs and Pool respectively. Liverpool and Southampton play each other soon too so hopefully we can open a gap on either team.
That is, of course, predicated on United not playing like absolute shithouses. Unfortunately there's no guarantee of that.
That is, of course, predicated on United not playing like absolute shithouses. Unfortunately there's no guarantee of that.
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