there signing them for the sole reason as when they come back they will make a cracking profit on them
Callum Hudson-Odoi
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If he is made available at some sort of sensible deal, either loan with an option to buy at some sum or smth - Then yes, we should consider the deal.
Mate, what is your issue with CHO? You have your opinion and others have theirs on the player. Why is he bothering you so much?
It's a completely illogical premise. If the player doesn't perform then they aren't worth a carrot. Bayern were going to invest big money in CHO so he'd have to perform at a very high level in the league for them to make a 'cracking profit'. Dortmund have invested very big money in Bellingham who had only played at Championship level before so they clearly believe that he can make it to a very high level.
Of course the fees English clubs may potentially pay makes it more attractive but there's no profit to be made from players that are not talented. Bayern offering £35m and big wages for an 18 year old should tell you how highly they rated him.
don't have an issue with him, said my piece and followed up the replys, is that not what a forum is for ?
I'm not convinced about him yet - never seen a single match where he has been genuinely brilliant for 90 minutes. He produces some bright moments, but nothing consistently. There are also some injury issues lately.
If Chelsea don't see anything special in the 19-year old English youngster, and are willing to let him go, I don't think he's any special. I don't want our squad to be full of Chelsea rejects.
If Chelsea don't see anything special in the 19-year old English youngster, and are willing to let him go, I don't think he's any special. I don't want our squad to be full of Chelsea rejects.
He'll be too expensive for us as a 4th choice winger.
The same Chelsea who let mo salah & KDB go when they where young?
Gnabry is another example. Looked garbage in the PL but has developed massively at Bayern.
Wouldn’t mind him tbh. If he is actually available at a fair price then i hope we’re in for him.
I would take him at a decent price, I have seen him play better games in a Chelsea shirt than Havertz and he cost 70mil quid.
He was the 2nd best player on the pitch for the world cup u17's final behind Foden. So for his age he clearly was an elite player/prospect.
I watch England religiously at youth levels and CHO was basically like Adama Traore then. He was fast, strong and went past full backs with ease. The trouble when you move up to men's football is that the full backs are also fast and strong. He's capable of elite level goals and finishing but like Rashford he doesn't have the consistency yet and can be wasteful. For me he needs first team football and even dropping to the Championship on loan wouldn't be a bad thing now.
I think his main problem is his injury. An achilles tear is way worse than doing your ACL. Even if he gets back to 95% (Which would be quite the achievement) in terms of explosiveness it would render him good/average and not great.
Not sure how he would be effected. I know that I lost a lot of flexibility, which turned into lost speed. Mind you, I was 34 the first time (36 the second) so a lot different than a teenager doing it. But I was never the same. Not even close. Any pace I had left was gone. I went from being one of the fastest guys on my team to the slowest. It was a huge drop off...
An achilles injury is considered the worst injury in basketball. You lose a lot of athleticism. I think there's been like 1 or 2 who have come back normal, but mostly everyone else suffered.
steal him pronto. before bayern do so...
There an article on The Times (behind paywall) about CHO achilles injury (from last year). Looks an interesting read. There are 3 grades of rupture, 3 being the most serious a complete tear.
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/callum-hudson-odoi-may-never-regain-the-same-power-after-achilles-injury-dlmsvfjgh
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Dr. Kevin Stone, an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in sports medicine. Here’s how he described the tendon:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/callum-hudson-odoi-may-never-regain-the-same-power-after-achilles-injury-dlmsvfjgh
Also,
Dr. Kevin Stone, an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in sports medicine. Here’s how he described the tendon:
Big injury is one of the main reasons - the main reason, really - I'd never go for him. Shaw unfortunately has never been as explosive as he was in August/September 2015 after his bad leg break; he was playing so well that even Depay was looking good in front of him! Hate injuries
Edit: Damn article's behind a paywall haha
I read it. It's more anecdotal and at the end says "there are still no guarantees".
If he has lost that explosiveness he could always remodel himself as a 10. He's played there for England at the u17 Euros and got in team of the tournament. He's a good passer of the ball for a wide forward.
After his goal vs West Brom his price probably has gone up by £10M
Will be tossed aside in favour of shinier toys like Ziyech and Pulisic. Would certainly be a worthwhile alternative to Sancho (not that Chelsea will sell to us anyway).
He's wasting his career at Chelsea.
He's wasting his career at Chelsea.
This is what I don't get. Imho CHO is (clearly) more talented than Pulisic. He's three years younger, too.
He did well.
Hasn't looked the same since his achilles injury. Hope he can kick on, but will probably end up wasting another year on the bench.
When did Chelsea refuse to sell to United? They sold Mata who was coming off of a very good season and Matic who was still one of the best at his position for reasonable prices.
Still welcome to join us, our squad is practically reduced to the bare minimum.
Circumstances are different - we're now direct rivals for top four. I think CHO would have to push for it. Maybe our reluctance to sell Henderson to them may play a role too.
Mourinho wanted him gone so they sold him and made a profit.
United refused to sell Rooney to Chelsea as well prior to the season Chelsea sold Mata to United. Chelsea are not impractical. If they get a decent enough bid, they'll sell, especially after the amount of money they spent this window on other players.
Surely if he was really good he would play often ahead of ziyech? What's gone wrong ?
He's injured most of the time. They can't rely on him to be fit and CHO does not want to be benched. It's the Sancho syndrome... basically want to play every game to develop himself further. Could see him go to Dortmund if Sancho is sold.
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United is too good for him according to some here while the treble winning European champs would be glad to take him
As i said before, i would love him here as a Sancho alternative, but don't see it happening.
You'd love to see it.
If he went there would it make a deal for coman possible?
Doubt they'll be offloading any wingers with Sane's injury issues already rearing back up
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United is too good for him according to some here while the treble winning European champs would be glad to take him
Which of your forwards are you looking to drop down to the bench (if you are looking for someone to go straight into the first XI)?