And this wouldn't be true for other DMs he's competing with for the 'best in the world DM' title?
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Yup, he was great. But when he comes our team was still functioning and not the pile of mess we are at the moment.
It even broke Ronaldo
I mean some of these didn't go to shite overnight though.
BFS - Had massively declined already, not at all the same situation as Casemiro
Di Maria - Was actually good until he fell out with the manager and got homesick.
Zlatan - Including Zlatan is baffling, he got 28 goals in his first season. Not really sure what else you would have expected?
Varane (I swear I was excited and didn't expect him coming) - Yeah this one is fair, no idea what's happened to him.
Ronaldo - He's been on a steady decline for a couple of years. He caused the same "issues" at Juventus, where the team had to change their style to accommodate him. The warning signs were there before he joined.
So with 13 days left in the window we look to be signing the best DM in the world.
Someone who can compete with Rodri, Fabinho, Kante…
Someone who massively upgrades on Mctominay..
Yet we aren’t happy and want to complain
Varane / Ronaldo / Sancho says Hi, and many others before them.
They didn't transform us, we transform them..
So better not sign any more players, gotcha
To be fair, Real fans didn’t expect Varane performance in MU. Was very disappointing.
He was a very good football player, but with Sergio Ramos to his side. Ramos was the true Real defense chief.
But don’t be afraid, is not the same with Casemiro, who is a chief by himself and make play better the other midfielders around him.
As I said before, he is a monster.
Best regards!
Said it at the time and I'll say it again; no centre back is going to look good in front of De Gea unless we defend incredibly deep.
No, it really does not.We still have shite owners, a shite team, we are sitting bottom of the league, conceded 6 goals and only an own goal to our name but yes... a desperation signing 2 weeks before the window ends makes everything better
Yes if we sign him the team will be improved, but that's not the real issue is it.
Shhhh that’s different!
I mean Chelsea signed 36 year old Silva and Koulibaly at 31. Both on huge money.
Their fans seem a lot more realistic
I thought that was Mctominay?
Just saying not gonna hold my breath up.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see him transforming us anyway. The mess is too much for 1 player to fix.
We've looked to be signing among the best players in their respective positions for years now and not one has improved since they signed for us. Not one.So with 13 days left in the window we look to be signing the best DM in the world.
Someone who can compete with Rodri, Fabinho, Kante…
Someone who massively upgrades on Mctominay..
Yet we aren’t happy and want to complain
But yeah, let's ignore the evidence and just be eternally happy and hopeful
My two cents, Casemiro is the reason for Modric longevity..
He's not a DM, so we'll have the best DM and the best CMI thought that was Mctominay?
This deal reeks of desperation rather than a carefully planned move - not something a decently run club will do. At his age, he should be no where near 60m. However, he will improve us none the less and since the money goes out of Glazer's dividends, I frankly don't care of the financials of the deal.
It has nothing to do with liking it or not, the reality of the matter is that outside of injuries top players do not magically turn into pumpkins at 30 and there is a plethora of recent references at the top level to support it, players that drop at 30 among top players are the exception not the norm.
As for Real Madrid, they currently have a 36 years old midfielder that has played his best football in his 30s, they mainly brought younger midfielders because they lacked depth and they bought Tchouaméni this summer because they couldn't sign Mbappé anymore and he was a player they wanted for the future, it had nothing to do with Casemiro imminently regressing.
Yeah the last sentence I can agree with. But we have to start somewhere, right?
Just a slap on the cock. Worth it.
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Do we have a few year to let him develop when we are in relegation area and played shite in those 2 games?
You need a well-built already and run well already team to develop potential and prospective players, not to throw them under our situation and hope their ability value explosion from 60/99 to 80~99/99 to save us.
And McFred ahead.
I believe on average we conceded fewer goals last season when he was playing compared to when he wasn't anyway, or at least that was the case halfway through the season.
Where’s the flight tracking info? Disappointed the muppets haven’t grabbed it yet.
Firstly, if you think that ETH will be given a couple of seasons of performing at a low level by the fans, press and Board, I'd say you're being extremely optimistic. Look at the reaction after just two games. He has to show significant progress this season or the pressure will be immense. Missing out on top 4 would only be accepted if he did so with a very high points tally. This season looks particularly competitive, with Spurs and Arsenal both looking the best they've been in a while, and Chelsea, City and Liverpool not looking to have moved backwards. Since 6th place would probably see him gone, short term solutions are essential, or we'll be back at square one next summer with another new boss. Whoever comes in has to be ready to contribute this season.
Anyway, it's false to imply that short and long term solutions are mutually exclusive. You need both. In an ideal world, you have a mix of hungry young players and older, experienced winners in the squad. We have neither, in midfield anyway, so we have little choice than to solve both these problems in the transfer market at once. Good squad building is about the balance between the current and the future. You can’t neglect one at the expense of the other, either way round.
Who have we signed that less than 6 months ago won the CL and bossed it? I mean the opposition was even Liverpool…We've looked to be signing among the best players in their respective positions for years now and not one has improved since they signed for us. Not one.
But yeah, let's ignore the evidence and just be eternally happy and hopeful
I understand people have reservations about literally everything the club does currently. If we signed Endrick there would be replies saying ‘we will make him shit’, ‘I would tell him not to come here’ etc.
It’s kind of boring wallowing in self pity.
Stuff of dreams mate!He's not a DM, so we'll have the best DM and the best CM
Arnautovic is a panic buy, Casemiro is a fecking masterstroke.We still have shite owners, a shite team, we are sitting bottom of the league, conceded 6 goals and only an own goal to our name but yes... a desperation signing 2 weeks before the window ends makes everything better
Nonsense.
It's bonkers. Paying pretty much the same for AWB and people are moaningSo with 13 days left in the window we look to be signing the best DM in the world.
Someone who can compete with Rodri, Fabinho, Kante…
Someone who massively upgrades on Mctominay..
Yet we aren’t happy and want to complain
If this was an 18 year old from South America with no 1st team appearances, people would no doubt be delighted
Is my memory fooling me or was Mr difficult personality also pretty decent in his 30s?
Does anybody know when he needs to be signed for to play vs Liverpool? Given our game is on Monday, does the 12pm (today) cut off still apply?
It seems journalists don't even know.
It seems journalists don't even know.
No doubt we have issues in dealing with being pressed in possession, and De Jong would of absolutely helped, I still think we need another midfielder, but i think our CB's are far too often left so exposed it's painful.
Casemiro is actually good on the ball and while not being De Jong, he's comfortable in possession. and a big upgrade on Mctom/Fred
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I'll be fecking amazed if this happens. An actual world class defensive mid is coming to our club and he's not a total crock.
Watch players like Varane, Lindelof, Martinez and Fred go up a few gears too.
Watch players like Varane, Lindelof, Martinez and Fred go up a few gears too.
Casemiro-Fred for Brazil
15/17 games win
13 clean sheets
15/17 games win
13 clean sheets
Do you really think buying him or not buying him are equally bad??
So rather than have perhaps the best DM in the world in our team, we may as well just stick with McFred to fill our DM void?
Also, ETH identified the player he wanted in FdJ – but if the transfer doesn't not happen for whatever the reason, should he then just ignore anyone else who is available? It seems like you are saying if we don't get who we initially wanted we should just sulk and not buy anyone. Or be miserable with anyone we are linked with and potentially sign.
If he comes let's hope he doesn't just mope about for the cash. Brazilian international so has to perform for World cup. Let's see if it happens .
I must admit i did consider to make a thread called "who will we be linked with tomorrow?", but decided against it, since i never make threads.fair play
although in my defense, I said “improbable“ and not “impossible”
So fair to say i totally shared your thoughts
Oh there's no denying the quality he has, though he didn't adjust well and had some poor games but at lot of that can be put down to not staying fit as obviously centre backs tend to need a run of games to get their form back. He is used to playing in front of a dominant goalkeeper though and we have the opposite of that. I like Maguire more than most on here but you have to imagine if Rafa can stay fit we'll get a run of Martinez-Varane which on paper seems to cover all bases.
I thought so, it was certainly the case a couple of years ago that it was 12pm the day before that weekends fixtures started.
Exactly. He’s already very familiar with Fred and Varane who’ll no doubt help him settle. Hopefully the signing will have the added bonus of allowing Fred to play where he’s most effective.
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