if that was shitty player, Pep and his lovers will moan, moan, and moan and FA will act fast to punish that kongolo cnut. I was so glad and amazed that he can continue playing for 90 minutes like nothing happen. Tough Life!
I don't know who you are or who fracture is nor do I care to be honest.Ummmm didn’t United win yesterday or did I miss something? Or is it just one of those lies people like to put out there to make themselves feel better? Has Fracture even commented in this thread since I noticed in The Top Red thread that seems to get thrown at him a lot.
Just patting each other’s backs feeding the delusion that everyone is out to get Jose or is an oppo fan
You just made a statement insinuating a load of rubbish. Just simply called you on it, especially this bitI don't know who you are or who fracture is nor do I care to be honest.
Sounds like your cage has been rattled. I am sure you were full of praise after the game.
Who are these people you speak of?You should know that the same people saying that was not even dangerous are also the loudest when one of our players does something stupid and are never to be seen when we win and play well but only come out when we draw or lose or try and come up with something negative to tell you that we are just "papering over the cracks". Some are just oppo fans masquerading as United fans others just hate Jose.
you didn't call anyone out on anything. I don't know you or what you have posted or what your thoughts are. I did not mention you but for some reason, you felt it was about you which means you just called yourself out.You just made a statement insinuating a load of rubbish. Just simply called you on it, especially this bit
Who are these people you speak of?
But who were you meaning? I wasn’t caring about myself, it was the fact you made an infactual comment. Asked you about it and you’ve avoided answering it twice which brings us back to the original point unfortunately that it was a bit of a lie.you didn't call anyone out on anything. I don't know you or what you have posted or what your thoughts are. I did not mention you but for some reason, you felt it was about you which means you just called yourself out.
Congratulations on embarrassing yourself...
If you had read and comprehended what I said then you would see that I mentioned those who do post despite us winning will try and spin their negative agenda. If your last hope at saving some face was to suggest that these types of posters have actually gone into witness protection and would never post again then I am sorry to tell you that you have just embarrassed yourself even further.But who were you meaning? I wasn’t caring about myself, it was the fact you made an infactual comment. Asked you about it and you’ve avoided answering it twice which brings us back to the original point unfortunately that it was a bit of a lie.
The only thing that would be embarrassing was if you could point to these people that were slagging United after a win but aren’t around after a win as they go in hiding even tho we won yesterday so you would think by your logic they’d be in hiding. I just wanted clarification on that nonsense? Are they here or aren’t they because we won I mean your entire post was a contradiction.
Who are you? A sky pundit? That's the crap they come up with when they know they are wrong and don't want to admit they intend to just be biased.Not for me I’m afraid
Note 1. The mentioning of Fracture was due to you being in the Top Red thread where there is mention of Fracture disappearing and only showing up for games when we lose. It was an example of these supposed posters. Here is what you wrote again.If you had read and comprehended what I said then you would see that I mentioned those who do post despite us winning will try and spin their negative agenda. If your last hope at saving some face was to suggest that these types of posters have actually gone into witness protection and would never post again then I am sorry to tell you that you have just embarrassed yourself even further.
It is very amusing how you read what I said and could not but help think it was about you which clearly means your cage has been rattled and you have exposed yourself as one of them. What is even funnier is that you are acting like you are a spokesperson for them. If you don't think there are people on here who are actually opposition fans wumming then you should ask the mods about those they have banned or those that admitted it themselves after lurking on the forums masquerading as United fans for years. There are also many who literally hate Jose and have admitted it but at least they are open and honest about it.
I am not saying that this is just based on a difference of opinion on a challenge on mctominay but on many factors and many examples of no matter what those types will either find a negative to try and take a dig or they won't post anything at all after a win. You yourself mentioned a poster out of the blue which means you feel he is one of those people otherwise why mention him randomly?? Is he someone you feel needs defending because both your views are aligned?
what was the "I wasn't caring about myself" part all about? Don't you care that you called yourself out or?
so you said I avoided answering something "twice" and said something "infactual" which I don't even think is a word. When it was, in fact, you who ignored what I said (see first paragraph) and said something unfactual(see 3rd para)
once again you answered your own question by mentioning another poster who along with yourself matches the profile of the type of poster I was talking about. Good to know for future reference.
So from your passage you are saying that these people are in the forum currently comentating on this subject. They are the same people who go missing after a win, they post about papering over cracks or something. So from that I gather you’ve witnessed them in this thread. So who are these people that will go in hiding after a win but still post after wins slagging off the team.You should know that the same people saying that was not even dangerous are also the loudest when one of our players does something stupid and are never to be seen when we win and play well but only come out when we draw or lose or try and come up with something negative to tell you that we are just "papering over the cracks". Some are just oppo fans masquerading as United fans others just hate Jose.
Yes. I was thinking the same. This was just braindead from the ref. Shame on him.The referee needs a long time off after that.
As I explained earlier:feck me, do you even understand the rules?!
I know penalties aren't given only for fouls denying clear goalscoring opportunities, but I do believe referees are reluctant to give them unless they do given how drastically a penalty can change a game. I think in this particular instance the ref decided not to give the penalty because the ball was already gone (given that as many have pointed out, its not like he didn't see it). I just feel like the ref might have been prepared to punish the offender directly (by sending him off) if it didn't also result in a penalty being awarded.
What have they done to deserve that??That assault looks worse every time you re-watch it. What baffles me the most is the Mctominay had his eyes on the ball and actually got it, whether the flying cnut had no idea where the ball was. He did it only to take Mctominay down. That ref deserves to be demoted to the Sunday pub league.
Exactly. Whether he meant it or not is irrelevant to the rules it’s at least a yellow.One of those infuriating "given anywhere else on the pitch" decisions. Aka, a referee bottle job.
The guy might not have meant to do it, might not have meant to be late, but you can't just bundle into someone ferociously, not get near the ball and smash someone to the floor.
Or can you?
Yep. I'm not one of those who thinks refereeing is at a lower standard than it used to be, but one thing that does seem to have got much worse to me is the discrepancy between what goes in the penalty area and what goes outside it, especially when it comes to fouls that don't really involve the feet: pushing, jockeying, blocking, body-slamming etc. The game seems to be becoming less of a contact sport outside the area but defenders are still getting away with being really rough inside it. Which is weird because when it comes to tripping, penalties get given for much less now - any contact seems to count, even if there's no way it was anywhere near enough to actually bring the man down or even slightly impede him.One of those infuriating "given anywhere else on the pitch" decisions. Aka, a referee bottle job.
With regards to this, lack of consistency is my main issue. I am still infuriated by being robbed at Newcastle by Mike Dean giving a pen against us years ago for Smalling grabbing at a corner. I have no issue with the foul itself, but could accept it more if it was in keeping with some new directive to start giving pens for that stuff. It wasn’t, Dean have the pen against us, and then refs went back to ignoring it every game.Yep. I'm not one of those who thinks refereeing is at a lower standard than it used to be, but one thing that does seem to have got much worse to me is the discrepancy between what goes in the penalty area and what goes outside it, especially when it comes to fouls that don't really involve the feet: pushing, jockeying, blocking, body-slamming etc. The game seems to be becoming less of a contact sport outside the area but defenders are still getting away with being really rough inside it. Which is weird because when it comes to tripping, penalties get given for much less now - any contact seems to count, even if there's no way it was anywhere near enough to actually bring the man down or even slightly impede him.
Although even as I'm writing it seems strange to fit this incident into any kind of trend. It's a blindingly obvious reckless foul.
Sunday league obviously not but that was a shocking challenge that he clearly saw. Like anyone in their job if you cock up big time then a warning / more training etc is in order. No excuse not to punish the guy a bit.What have they done to deserve that??
To be honest I don't really give a toss that you (and seemingly only you) wish to troll this thread by trying to defend the refs appalling decision not to award a penalty.The user name is perfect “Wilt”
So never watched a game of Rugby? Normal tackle that and you don’t see people claiming it’s career threatening? Anything you do on a football pitch could be career threatening. Going for a header, trying to clear a ball anything that’s not violent conduct. That’s two people gone to challenge for a ball and one has come out of it better than the other.
~Was livid when watching. Clear pen and red.
Not a dicky bird. Imagine say, if Pogba or Jones was the offender.So, is this going to be looked into?
Nothing was given on the pitch, so shouldn't the FA be looking at it today/tomorrow?
FA probably asked the ref if he saw it and he said yes and that in his opinion it wasn't a foul and I think if that's the case you can't ban a player retroactively?So, is this going to be looked into?
Nothing was given on the pitch, so shouldn't the FA be looking at it today/tomorrow?
Not saying that it is violent, or that he intended to do harm to McTominay, but I don't think that should really matter as potential head injuries could potentially not only end your career, but lower your overall quality of life if you are really unlucky. I know that it might be a fine line between this kind of challenges, but i think that it is shocking that head injuries are not taken more serious. When you lounge into a tackle you might break someones leg, and it is an universal agreement that leg breakers is an instant red card, but when Cahill breaks the skull of Mason he gets off without even a yellow.No ones mentioned anything about being a “hard man” it’s simply sport, and collisions happen. Static jump against someone moving the person moving (momentum) is always likely to get the highest. It’s miss timed, but he’s gone for the ball in an aerial challenge and his momentum takes him through McTominay who only has vertical momentum. If you think that momentum is wreckless then we might as well limit the game to only allowing 2 steps or something and ban jumping along with going for a header. Just ban it out right and be done with stupid debates.
Violent conduct is Young elbowing that dude, Fellaini elbowing the dude for the hair pull or Zlatan elbowing the villain from Flash Gordon. Even Vertongan this week grabbing Herrera. Something with clear intent to do harm to another person.
Yesterday is simply one guy trying to get to the ball that didn’t and unfortunately the momentum he had built up trying to get there carried him through.