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8 weeks is less than 2 months, unless he's missing 2 Februarys.
It’s roughly two months in the universal language of the calendar.

I’ll be surprised to see him pull on a Chelsea shirts this year and it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s back post February. Every chance the mad rush to get back for England will hamper him.

Painkillers can mask an injury alright but won’t aid his recovery you see.
 

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Loss for England and James but the WC helps Chelsea here quite a lot. 8 weeks works out to 11th of December from now.

Can get back to fitness over December and hopefully be 100% when the season starts again. Same for Kante. Worse things for teams will be when players get injured at the WC, which is inevitable. The season is going to be very distorted, some teams can benefit from the WC, like City with Haaland getting a month off. Some teams probably find key players are out for the second half of the season.
Judging by his tweet he plans to go away with England.

Don’t think he has any desire to miss the WC and I suspect that’s why he’s not having surgery.
 

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Loss for England and James but the WC helps Chelsea here quite a lot. 8 weeks works out to 11th of December from now.

Can get back to fitness over December and hopefully be 100% when the season starts again. Same for Kante. Worse things for teams will be when players get injured at the WC, which is inevitable. The season is going to be very distorted, some teams can benefit from the WC, like City with Haaland getting a month off. Some teams probably find key players are out for the second half of the season.
The matches are congested. The next month of football is worth 2 months in a normal season. WC isn’t saving anything
 

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It’s roughly two months in the universal language of the calendar.

I’ll be surprised to see him pull on a Chelsea shirts this year and it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s back post February. Every chance the mad rush to get back for England will hamper him.

Painkillers can mask an injury alright but won’t aid his recovery you see.
The doctors said 8 weeks and you reckon maybe March?

You don't seem particularly fluent in the universal languague of the calendar yourself there my little ray of sunshine.
 

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The doctors said 8 weeks are reckon maybe March?

You don't seem particularly fluent in the universal languague of the calendar yourself there my little ray of sunshine.
It’s clearly a rush job because Reece wants to play for England (which I understand)
 

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Judging by his tweet he plans to go away with England.

Don’t think he has any desire to miss the WC and I suspect that’s why he’s not having surgery.
Why would Southgate pick him when he wouldn't even be fit for any of the games, group stage is done 29th of November. Even after that, England aren't playing James back to fitness during the knockout stage, he won't have played a competitive for 2 months+, not even Southgate is that stupid!
 

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Why would Southgate pick him when he wouldn't even be fit for any of the games, group stage is done 29th of November. Even after that, England aren't playing James back to fitness during the knockout stage, he won't have played a competitive for 2 months+, not even Southgate is that stupid!
He did this with Maguire in the Euros?

As I say, James has no desire to miss the WC and his tweet confirmed it.
 

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Why would 8 weeks be a rush job for the world Cup? England's first game is 5 weeks tomorrow.

In 8 weeks the England team will he back in England.
Let’s see. Judging by his tweet I very much suspect he’ll gamble on getting back to go.
 

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Are they not congested at all afterwards?
It’s congested the entire way through but the games are more front loaded because the second half of the season is usually congested anyway. You cant fit much more i
Into on that period. Look at last season, there was an international break November anyway. We also missed an international week early in the season to jam games in as well
 

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He did this with Maguire in the Euros?

As I say, James has no desire to miss the WC and his tweet confirmed it.
Deluded imo, there is no way he's going to the world cup except to watch from the stands and do warm weather fitness if the 8 weeks out is accurate. The fact he's seen a top specialist about it would indicate it is indeed accurate.

Players don't get a choice to "gamble", Club medical staff will tell him what he can do or not depending on how his recovery is going.
 

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Deluded imo, there is no way he's going to the world cup except to watch from the stands and do warm weather fitness if the 8 weeks out is accurate. The fact he's seen a top specialist about it would indicate it is indeed accurate.

Players don't get a choice to "gamble", Club medical staff will tell him what he can do or not depending on how his recovery is going.
It seems likely the club have tried to push the operation and he’s refused hence the involvement of the specialist.

It’s happened before as I say.
 

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Of course he wants to play, he'd go with one leg in plaster if it was up to him.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ce-James-Milan-amid-knee-injury-concerns.html

Seems a bit of a shit show from the club. Wasn’t aware of this.

Obviously they left him on the pitch too long in the first instance but they also allowed him to stay in Milan with friends to enjoy himself and fly home a day later on his own with EasyJet. Seems a terrible way to manage a serious injury with no medical support.

Perhaps Boehly is right about the Chelsea medical team?
 

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Finding you are a Daily Mail reader is more disappointing than Reece James missing 8 weeks.
I’m not but it’s making the headlines today and popped up.

Seems far fetched to make it up given its quite easy to find out if he traveled back with the squad?

FA leak.
 

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Deluded imo, there is no way he's going to the world cup except to watch from the stands and do warm weather fitness if the 8 weeks out is accurate. The fact he's seen a top specialist about it would indicate it is indeed accurate.

Players don't get a choice to "gamble", Club medical staff will tell him what he can do or not depending on how his recovery is going.
This is the opposite of how the real world works. Medical staff follow the players lead.
 

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This is the opposite of how the real world works. Medical staff follow the players lead.
Absolute nonsense, the players are told what kind of training to do depending on their injury. In this case, it looks like the medical team screwed up quite badly. James wasn't assessed properly after the Milan and was allowed to stay extra and come home on Easyjet! That certainly shouldn't be the managers call, the medical staff should be insisting he flew back straight away for a scan. Can only imagine how furious Boehly will have been about how badly this was handled.
 

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Absolute nonsense, the players are told what kind of training to do depending on their injury. In this case, it looks like the medical team screwed up quite badly. James wasn't assessed properly after the Milan and was allowed to stay extra and come home on Easyjet! That certainly shouldn't be the managers call, the medical staff should be insisting he flew back straight away for a scan. Can only imagine how furious Boehly will have been about how badly this was handled.
The medical staff probably did insist, but Reece said “no I feel fine I’m going out”. They can’t stop a fully grown adult making his own decisions.
 

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an operation for an LCL injury is not common. It's rehab and perhaps a brace... I very much doubt anyone has pushed for an op, because its extremely likely he didnt even need one, at all.
 

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Truth is we don’t know but what we do know is the medical staff have messed up, Boehly doesn’t trust them and James is pushing to get back for the WC (which will be his decision)
I feel like I need a shower after reading what you have posted in these last pages. Your posts appear freakishly obsessive to me.

Are you a Chelsea fan? Honest question, I am a bit confused.
 

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I feel like I need a shower after reading what you have posted in these last pages. Your posts appear freakishly obsessive to me.

Are you a Chelsea fan? Honest question, I am a bit confused.
He actually isnt, just has an unhealthy obsession with picking faults in anything Chelsea related; if he can. :wenger:
 

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When did Kepa get this good?

One man showreel today 1st half and seems he's been solid in previous weeks covering for whatever happened to Mendy.

Perhaps getting more love from this coach compared to others as Sarri pretty much gave up on him after the cup final fiasco and Lampard never rated him much either.
 

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When did Kepa get this good?

One man showreel today 1st half and seems he's been solid in previous weeks covering for whatever happened to Mendy.

Perhaps getting more love from this coach compared to others as Sarri pretty much gave up on him after the cup final fiasco and Lampard never rated him much either.
Tuchel really helped build his confidence up. Used him in cup competitions and made him our PK specialist at the end of cup draws.
 

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an operation for an LCL injury is not common. It's rehab and perhaps a brace... I very much doubt anyone has pushed for an op, because its extremely likely he didnt even need one, at all.
In fairness, the surgery is only rare because the injury itself is extremely rare. People reading these stories and thinking he “further aggravated it” are thinking of things like ACL’s and MCL’s

LCL’s are impact injuries, and it usually only happens in conjunction with a dislocation of the knee (something more serious) accompanying it.

They should have had him resting it completely; Religion is not wrong about that. Mostly, because until the inflammation goes down more it is difficult to rule out a partial form of such a dislocation having occurred (a pop out/pop in) You also want to get as many views and treatment plans started as early as possible.

It sounds like they told the team that it was a conclusive grade 1, and if that was verified as true, it wouldn’t be a big deal on an LCL. But judging something as conclusive after 1 scan, in a foreign country, with swelling still an issue, seems like a bad idea.

It is probably just as torn or strained as it was after impact. You generally don’t walk around and twist your leg wrong and have the LCL pop. It is, again, different than injuries to the other ligaments people are more familiar with. But he was going out to “hang out”, maybe have some drinks with the boys? The danger of real torque, or further impact on the inside of the knee would have been real. And any chance like that seems unacceptable when talking about a talent like James.

“But we promised him he could go out with his friends” seems a very poor reasoning.

We know the Clearlake group was already unhappy with the medical staff there. Perhaps they need to accelerate the recruiting process.
 

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When did Kepa get this good?

One man showreel today 1st half and seems he's been solid in previous weeks covering for whatever happened to Mendy.

Perhaps getting more love from this coach compared to others as Sarri pretty much gave up on him after the cup final fiasco and Lampard never rated him much either.
He’s been solid ever since Tuchel took over to be honest. That season under Lampard was just a genuine disaster, he literally couldn’t save anything. He’s been a solid backup for 2 years and he’s now continued that form as a starter. I’ve felt relatively safe with him in goal for a long time now.
 

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Kepa playing well really does blow my mind. This is one of the things I love about European football. He goes from a failure with a contract we can’t get rid of….to the perfect fit for a new manager, and playing unbelievably well.

Now, that said, there were a few signs of the old issues we had with him. That one cross he punched away, it only went about 6 yards, and the Vila player got an immediate shot off. Kepa saved it, but that was very Deja Vu for me.

He does have some amazing reflexes though
 

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Think you will beat us on Saturday,we aren't doing enough to win games this season
 

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Think you will beat us on Saturday,we aren't doing enough to win games this season
Football is funny old game. We were lucky yesterday kepa kept us in the game and we have own issues to overcome. So nothing suggests we will win.60:40 in favour to us because it's our home game.

But that will give you advantage to effectively use counter attacks against us and defend in numbers.
 

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Kepa playing well really does blow my mind. This is one of the things I love about European football. He goes from a failure with a contract we can’t get rid of….to the perfect fit for a new manager, and playing unbelievably well.

Now, that said, there were a few signs of the old issues we had with him. That one cross he punched away, it only went about 6 yards, and the Vila player got an immediate shot off. Kepa saved it, but that was very Deja Vu for me.

He does have some amazing reflexes though
You have to respect him, because even though Chelsea have wanted to shift him for a long time and his wages have essentially been the reason we couldn't get rid of him, he always served his time as the #2 with utmost professionalism. For two years, he sat and waited for his chance, whilst performing admirably when called upon in the cups.

If he is indeed the Chelsea #1 again, as reported in the Athletic, then it is exactly how meritocracy should work - Mendy got injured and Kepa performed too well in his absence to be dropped so now the shirt is his.
 
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I remember when we signed him there was Spanish football pundits saying he was a top drawer keeper. All keepers will be poor with lack of confidence, now he has a manager who clearly rates him, i think we'll see his best
 

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Yeah credit when due, Kepa has been great lately and the team are clearly starting to feel confident with him between the sticks again.

For a backup keeper he's been solid for more than a year now and deserves the chance he's been given. At the start of the season Mendy looked shaky and it just so happened he was injured for Potter's first couple of games in charge as well so the timing was very convenient for Kepa to impress the new manager and claim the spot for himself. Now it's up to him to continue these kind of performances and not crumble and lose his confidence again after some eventual setbacks.
 
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