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Shame Erik isn't allowed to make appointments like this due to clowns who have run us into the ground for last 9 years
I mean I doubt it's Potter making them.

Our structure doesn't need new people when it has the brilliance of John Murtough and Darren Fletcher.
 
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Shame Erik isn't allowed to make appointments like this due to clowns who have run us into the ground for last 9 years
Let’s be honest. you’d heard of neither of them until Chelsea picked them up.

Neither were their first choice or preferred candidates either.
 

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Shame Erik isn't allowed to make appointments like this due to clowns who have run us into the ground for last 9 years
Why would a manager make these appointments? Potter didn’t even make these appointments
 

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Is read about surgery, missing the World Cup and then rehab. It’s an absence which is going in to next year (James). The injury is far more serious than first thought.
 

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I’m wondering if Chelsea will dip into the market January, even if a loan deal on a RB? I know this hasn’t been successful for them of late but someone like Wan Bissaka could be available to help Azpilicueta in that area.
 

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Yep. Although you don’t go to see a specialist if it’s a minor injury.
Didn't Chelsea sack all their medical staff and send Fofana to a specialist in the US for his fitness test? I think the medical staff at Chelsea isn't trusted by the board and they're going to people top of their field in the US for answers instead.
 

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Didn't Chelsea sack all their medical staff and send Fofana to a specialist in the US for his fitness test? I think the medical staff at Chelsea isn't trusted by the board and they're going to people top of their field in the US for answers instead.
Not sure? Wouldn’t surprise me the way Boehly is operating. It’s always pantomime season at the Bridge.
 

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Let’s be honest. you’d heard of neither of them until Chelsea picked them up.

Neither were their first choice or preferred candidates either.
It's not the fact I haven't heard of them more that they are actually appointing Football people not just promoting existing ones
 

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It's not the fact I haven't heard of them more that they are actually appointing Football people not just promoting existing ones
We will see how everything works out but can’t be much worse than United’s appointments over the last 10 years.
Not sure? Wouldn’t surprise me the way Boehly is operating. It’s always pantomime season at the Bridge.
Here we thought you were the expert on our club. As long as we are having a pantomime why don’t you pull up a seat and enjoy the show because from where I’m sitting, there has yet to be any obvious mistakes. But I know you’ll be there ready to shout “he is behind you” if we end up slipping up somewhere.
 

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Yep. Although you don’t go to see a specialist if it’s a minor injury.
Well, that’s not true. You, me, or the banker down the street would t go see a specialist for a minor injury .

Elite athletes should see a specialist anytime there is even a minor question.

The moment I saw “LCL” I was surprised they were just letting him walk around on it, even with braces, before being seen by one.

The reason: LCL injuries that “only” involve the LCL are extremely rare. Generally the LCL is injured in conjunction with things like knee dislocations. If there was a trauma to the knee that caused the joint to dislodge, but then pop back into place (as an example) then they need to rule out non ligament damage to different parts of the knee.

Even if the damage is solely to the LCL, they would then need to decide on whether surgery or long term healing is the best route. If the ligament was fully torn he would already be lined up for surgery. My suspicion is the initial scans showed a strain with a lot of inflammation. A second scan, with the inflammation down probably showed a partial tear.

At that point you have to decide whether to let it heal naturally, or whether it would be better to do a clean separation of the ligament and a surgical repair.

And that’s not the type of thing you go to a team physio or team medical director for anyway. In America, teams have official affiliations with top hospitals and surgical centers. The Dodgers have an official partnership with UCLA medical center which is cutting edge, and even then they go specialists in places like New York if a player faces something daunting.

The fact that “team doctors” would even presume to think they should be the last word on things like Fofanas previous injury evaluation, or how to proceed with Reece is just weird.

Clearlake will do what’s best for James, and they will have the medical team they want and the specialist and surgical affiliations they want, even if they have to build their own clinic.
 

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It's not the fact I haven't heard of them more that they are actually appointing Football people not just promoting existing ones
‘Football people’. So United don’t have football people at the club? Why is it a shame we haven’t got these two considering they are way down the list of who Chelsea actually wanted? What are we missing out on?

Me thinks you have no idea and just saw it as an opportunity to have a moan.

We will see how everything works out but can’t be much worse than United’s appointments over the last 10 years.

Here we thought you were the expert on our club. As long as we are having a pantomime why don’t you pull up a seat and enjoy the show because from where I’m sitting, there has yet to be any obvious mistakes. But I know you’ll be there ready to shout “he is behind you” if we end up slipping up somewhere.
I was shouting the warning ‘he’s behind you’ when most of you were adamant Roman was going nowhere a few months ago.

I just have a rounded footballing knowledge. Not specific to Chelsea. I’m a student of the game.

Well, that’s not true. You, me, or the banker down the street would t go see a specialist for a minor injury .

Elite athletes should see a specialist anytime there is even a minor question.

The moment I saw “LCL” I was surprised they were just letting him walk around on it, even with braces, before being seen by one.

The reason: LCL injuries that “only” involve the LCL are extremely rare. Generally the LCL is injured in conjunction with things like knee dislocations. If there was a trauma to the knee that caused the joint to dislodge, but then pop back into place (as an example) then they need to rule out non ligament damage to different parts of the knee.

Even if the damage is solely to the LCL, they would then need to decide on whether surgery or long term healing is the best route. If the ligament was fully torn he would already be lined up for surgery. My suspicion is the initial scans showed a strain with a lot of inflammation. A second scan, with the inflammation down probably showed a partial tear.

At that point you have to decide whether to let it heal naturally, or whether it would be better to do a clean separation of the ligament and a surgical repair.

And that’s not the type of thing you go to a team physio or team medical director for anyway. In America, teams have official affiliations with top hospitals and surgical centers. The Dodgers have an official partnership with UCLA medical center which is cutting edge, and even then they go specialists in places like New York if a player faces something daunting.

The fact that “team doctors” would even presume to think they should be the last word on things like Fofanas previous injury evaluation, or how to proceed with Reece is just weird.

Clearlake will do what’s best for James, and they will have the medical team they want and the specialist and surgical affiliations they want, even if they have to build their own clinic.
Good opinion piece but as I say you don’t take a player to see a specialist if it’s something straightforward. That’s why clubs have their own highly qualified Doctors and medical facilities.

As confirmed the injury is worse than first thought hence the specialist referral.
 

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‘Football people’. So United don’t have football people at the club? Why is it a shame we haven’t got these two considering they are way down the list of who Chelsea actually wanted? What are we missing out on?

Me thinks you have no idea and just saw it as an opportunity to have a moan.



I was shouting the warning ‘he’s behind you’ when most of you were adamant Roman was going nowhere a few months ago.

I just have a rounded footballing knowledge. Not specific to Chelsea. I’m a student of the game.



Good opinion piece but as I say you don’t take a player to see a specialist if it’s something straightforward. That’s why clubs have their own highly qualified Doctors and medical facilities.

As confirmed the injury is worse than first thought hence the specialist referral.
I would just like to see us appoint someone who has knowledge of the british and european market which isn't Murtough for me
 

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i’ve got a friend who’s in the know and he says the x-ray of james’s knee or ankle looks like a breadstick after it’s been put in a blender.
 

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8 weeks for James, and no surgery. 8 week timeframe is being conservative.
 

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Wish the lad a speedy recovery, but I can't say I'm devastated he's missing the game vs us because he's a very good player.
 

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That's a big loss and a shame for England especially with Trent's nonexistent form.
Loss for England and James but the WC helps Chelsea here quite a lot. 8 weeks works out to 11th of December from now.

Can get back to fitness over December and hopefully be 100% when the season starts again. Same for Kante. Worse things for teams will be when players get injured at the WC, which is inevitable. The season is going to be very distorted, some teams can benefit from the WC, like City with Haaland getting a month off. Some teams probably find key players are out for the second half of the season.
 
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