Which is 2 years ago, having been "settled" in Italy for that period.
Christian Eriksen | Signs for Manchester United
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As sad as it is to say, they’re just businessmen trying to make money. United isn’t some wondrous, prestigious establishment draped in history to them.
It’s a vehicle for making money.
I feel like "graveyard" wasn't the best term he could have used, considering the player in the story.
Yeah that was a heartless comment.
Same as the rest of the clowns
Does not have a clue!
No. We’re talking about transfers. The Neville tweet and all the fan channels are falsely making a link between the dividends and us not signing Eriksen or De Jong yet. You also continually use the word shambles to describe our training facilities - what about the training facilities are shambolic? That they aren’t as good as City’s?
You'd think he'd have a better finger on the pulse.
Why do you say that? Why does it only have to be city?
The training facilities haven’t had a refurbishment in years but we have fans who are content with facilities falling behind all elite clubs and the owners taking over £100 million out of the club whilst racking up debt - shambolic.
In terms of transfers - Id much rather £11m go to that area than the Glazers. Happy days if you are content with it.
What point is he trying to make? Just a random way of highlighting the dividends - like when he kept bringing up his agenda against the Super League in every conversation.
If the owners didn't take dividends, we shouldn't/wouldn't be signing Eriksen on a free?
It's hardly funded though is it, more being able to access the revenue we are generating in order to spend on self-improvement on the pitch compared to propping up out market value/owners' pockets.
Is the correct answer.
Why he chose to get back on a pitch and play football at the highest level again. I’m sure he still has the aims of a top pro. Therefore Brentford or United should be an easy choice.
It’s not all about him though is it. Got his family to think about. Maybe he’s content at Brentford playing his football. Wouldn’t blame him if he stayed at Brentford for family reasons.
I really hope we sign Eriksen. Him and De Jong would bring such a new dimension to our MF.
So the revenue a company's making is just there for the taking or it's generated for, basically, some people to make money?
The club's not generating money, their club(=company) is generating money, for them, as owners.
The club has been heavily funded with money, no matter where they come from. On one side people are complaining about Saudis, on the other complaining that a business is spending it's own money on assets.
These days you really can't satisfy the Man United fan. He wants his club ran impeccably, with 0 faults and excellent results.
Doesn’t every footballer? I don’t see Messi playing for Racing so that his kids get to live it up in Argentina. He moved them to Paris after years of living in Barcelona.
I mean what foolishness is this.
Wow what a false equivalence
This is such a basic reading of how the club is being run, and doesn't even begin to account for the massive amounts of debts our current owners have burdened the club with.
We are essentially being used as a vessel to offset our owners debts whilst they feed off the self-generated funds the club makes, irrespective of our owners input. In this sense, they are financial parasites contributing nothing of their own to the club.
No other club finds themselves in this situation. There is absolutely no reciprocation in our relationship with our owners whatsoever. They don't put in a penny of their money.
Now, you may say "Why should they? That's not how a company works." Well, it is how football clubs are run. I can't think of any other ownership model which doesn't directly self-invest in a project with long-term growth in mind.
To your last point, again a load of rubbish. Fans just want owners who understand the need to prioritise on-pitch success, which in turn is the basis for any long-term profitability for our owners. All other top clubs are run like this. I would have no problem with them taking their dividends if we were in a position to support it. But we are falling further and further behind, with more and more expenditure required as each season rolls by (squad, staff, stadium, training facilities, etc).
To be taking money out of the club at this moment in time is a new, albeit expected, low.
Does it matter. It goes for everyone. Pogba has two kids born in Manchester and I don’t see him decided to stay here for his kids. Matic too who im sure are a lot older.Wow what a false equivalence
Eriksen is rich. London and Manny aren’t that far when your money is long. It’s not like us upping and moving.
You still don't get the point man.
You're following a club that's not ran as a football club for very obvious reasons and you still complain about it.
While I agree that the club is ran like a cheap American burger house, please understand that, it's their business and they can do whatever the feck they want.
If I'd be in that position, I'd most likely be the same. I mean you're expecting some random rich dudes to think more about your beloved club than their own well being, what the feck delusion is that.
This is all I was alluding to. In regards to it being right or wrong, of course I agree it's wrong. But it's also wrong to bitch about something that can also be seen as very normal, from a business standpoint.
The Glazers are here, will be, and they will never change. As long as they are here, managers will get 150 mil each summer to spend and the club should get top4 or more.
Wait, so you think fans should not look to do anything about how the club is currently being run?
Whilst they may be in the eyes of owners, clubs are not companies. They mean far more that that, and fans are far more than consumers.
Fans have the power to actively disrupt the running of the club, they can literally drive the value of this down. And this is exactly what fans should be doing, and what recent actions have been proven to do.
Also, on the idea that owners can do whatever they like with clubs, that is literally not the case. There are far stricter stipulations around club ownership in the EPL now than when the Glazers took over (look at the Chelsea takeover process, which was essentially run on the premise to avoid a Glazer-styled ownership), and these stipulations are getting stricter.
How are we going to accommodate Eriksen, Bruno and De Jong in our side?
One sits on the bench.
The same way City accommodate two first team quality players in almost every position. Not to mention that De Jong doesn't play where either Fernandes or Eriksen do.
DM and 2 of those three
Bruno can also play RW and false 9 to give him more options for minutes
Exactly mate - United are a massive club probably the biggest in the world and we are just a bus stop in Hounslow and tbh I am just enjoying the fact that we are competing to sign a player, it sure makes a change from the old days of picking up League 2 journeymen on a free
Yeah DM is needed with that midfield
i think it'll be De Jong and Fred in the pivot, Eriksen in front and Bruno as a false 9 or rotating.
if we sign Martinez he'll play in midfield regularly as well
Bruno as a false 9? I think that can work.We play 1 striker.
So the other 3 start with McFred behind them
Bruno and Ronaldo up front for another season. May as well just admit we are going to struggle to get top 4. I dont believe we will go into the season without attacking reinforcements. We clearly have major problems creating and converting
Never thought we would ever compete for a player with fecking Brentford
That said, why are there only two clubs including us that are only in for him?
That said, why are there only two clubs including us that are only in for him?
I imagine a lot of teams don’t want to run the risk with his health issues.Never thought we would ever compete for a player with fecking Brentford
That said, why are there only two clubs including us that are only in for him?
He's been cleared, there are no risks.
This isn’t true. He may have been cleared but there obviously are risks. Just as there’s risks with literally any human being at any time, which is only exacerbated when they have an ICD (see: the time Daley Blind’s ICD failed and he collapsed mid game)
The latter is fairly simple, he hasn’t been particularly good for 5 years nowNever thought we would ever compete for a player with fecking Brentford
That said, why are there only two clubs including us that are only in for him?
Good point, better not sign any more humans then.
I'm ready for robot-football anyways!
But really, what's your point? He's clearly been cleared by all football relevant doctors as otherwise he wouldn't just have played half a season with Brentford + plus played well enough to get our interest.
He's made comments in a similar vein in the past.
That's just stupid and wrong.
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