Added to that every club In the league signs a document every year saying league punishments are final and they can’t take anything to an outside court.
Let’s just say City may as well have me as a lawyer
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Let’s just say City may as well have me as a lawyer
Have we established if it gives Liverpool titles? Otherwise I'd rather they keep it.
Historical points deductions that is...stripped of Previous titles etc.
We've been through this already, Pere paid 6.5m for his share of Girona... The entire club sold for £13m. 44% City, 44% Pere and 12% going to the Supporters Trust.
Pere Guardiola is one of the main men at SEG, representing everyone from Pep to Ten Hag to Van Persie, not to mention popstars, actors etc... He was also Luis Suarez agent. The idea he hasn't got £6.5m to buy a stake in a football club is ridiculous. His net worth is something like €50m.
you lot are unbelievable
Wonder if it's not just the inflated sponsorship deals from known companies but also the ones they have from very dodgy and questionable ones too..
https://manchestercity.vitalfootbal...stigation-into-citys-dubious-betting-partner/
https://offthepitch.com/a/exclusive...no-staff-no-active-products-and-being-run-out
https://manchestercity.vitalfootbal...stigation-into-citys-dubious-betting-partner/
https://offthepitch.com/a/exclusive...no-staff-no-active-products-and-being-run-out
And this is why no one cared when city won the league
What happens to the domestic cups they have won if they were to be stripped of their league titles?
You can't just hand them to the runner up as the reality is they shouldn't have even been in the finals at all. So how do you deal with that? Just null and void the entire thing for each season?
You can't just hand them to the runner up as the reality is they shouldn't have even been in the finals at all. So how do you deal with that? Just null and void the entire thing for each season?
FA on this for four years. Political mood has changed. Euro discontent, super League etc. FA have to make this stick. It will end up that sports wash city style no longer possible in UK. Just guessing.
Fire sale if they relegated. I will take a couple of their players, please.
Pep will probably overthink the arrangement of the cones and do something resembling crop circles.
this was always a clip that stuck with me. He has the most obvious tactic to avoid answering the question: “how can you even ask me that question?” He could have said no at any point and never did. This ti me has always been a very informative clip and I just wish the journalist pushed back on Pep’s faux indignance.
Ah shite. Late to the party, so only on page 10, but I'm hoping someone calls BS to this and retrospective is back on the table.
What you quoted is saying that isn't it?
Too close for comfort...but I'll take it.
Hopefully their current fall continues to get worse and worse.
1) The efforts of everybody else should be voided because the team who cheated to the title are punished?
2) Leaves a hole for every other club in second who would've been first otherwise, too. They're effectively robbed of what is rightfully theirs.
Case closed, relegate them to the National League and strip all of their titles.
It says the "don't think" it will include looking backward for punishment.
In otherwises, they will look back, but punishment will focus on the current time and future.
So instead of stripped titles, it would be points deductions/fines/relegation...
Still would take the worse of the future punishment if stripping of titles is not going to be considered, even though I genuinely feel it should very much be a possibility including current punishment, because at the current page I'm ready on this thread, I believe the investigation is only up until 2018?
Still catching up though.
I'm not sure how I'd feel giving Liverpool 3 titles.
Urrrgh. At the moment, I'd settle for them being relegated at least 2 levels in the English pyramid.
Oooh now this is lovely to hear.
Those brown envelopes are being prepared by shipload to stop this.
I agree Liverpool should be - but what about City?
expelled from the the PL for at least 10 years.
if someone offers you 6.5m, you’re immediate reaction is “no I’m alright thanks”?A post here said that City refuse to provide documents for 2018 onwards.
I wonder whether this in itself is a punishable action, whilst under investigation?
I wonder whether this in itself is a punishable action, whilst under investigation?
Turn that options around and stop being a spoil sport. Don't dash our dreams.
Newcastle are having a peak into what their future could look like in 10 years time...
Not arsed about retrospective action, all their titles and cups are forever tainted.
If found guilty of these breaches then it’s expulsion from the league? Will the owners stick around? Sure they own lots of uncontested land and property in Manchester via favours from the crooks at MCC but that’ll always be worth keeping as part of an investment portfolio. Having your sporting franchise guilty of cheating and having to start from scratch tho?
If found guilty of these breaches then it’s expulsion from the league? Will the owners stick around? Sure they own lots of uncontested land and property in Manchester via favours from the crooks at MCC but that’ll always be worth keeping as part of an investment portfolio. Having your sporting franchise guilty of cheating and having to start from scratch tho?
Don't worry about it. Would mean more league titles for Klopp. I think we can agree that 2018 is a fair cut off.
As long as PL refs don't have to call in VAR, our odds are good.
I fully expect them to be relegated to League 2.
Retrospective League titles/placing will be near impossible to be fair to all clubs.
European placings and even relegations.
Retrospective League titles/placing will be near impossible to be fair to all clubs.
European placings and even relegations.
Why?you lot are unbelievable
The EPL is worried about a government regulator. They want to show that they're willing to enforce their own laws, for the time being at least. As soon the threat of government regulation goes away, things will go back to normal, i.e. the EPL will go back to ignoring City's transgressions.
Another hattrick for us though.
Independant panel sounds like a bunch of brown envelope stuffed men in suits saying "nothing to see here".
Feck sake.
Feck sake.
Nothing will happen I am convinced. City will throw so many obstructions and appeals through English courts it will just take forever and probably settle it for a big fine. They won't get any transfer bans, won't get anything stripped and definitely not relegated
My reaction is given how our club is, if we wanted to give Pere 6.5m it could easily have been put into agent fees when negotiating deals, given we have 4 or 5 of his clients on the books and Pep has signed like 3 contracts since he's been here (that we know about, not knowing if he's had any consultant roles in Abu Dhabi) and there'd be zero comeback in giving him money like that. Not even the potential for comeback.
The reaility of the Girona deal is that it was a deal in both parties interests. Pere wanted to buy Girona and City Football Group were constantly hoovering up clubs all over the world. It was a no brainer for City at £6.5m for half a La Liga club given what we paid for some other clubs. Its like the one deal we're not cheating on.
Everyone knows they're cheats, everyone has known from day one.
It's just about proving it.
City fans saying shite like "oh if the allegations are true blah blah blah", you know they're true. You can't honestly assume City have done everything above board, that you've been bringing in higher revenue than us and Real Madrid for feck sake.
It's just about proving it.
City fans saying shite like "oh if the allegations are true blah blah blah", you know they're true. You can't honestly assume City have done everything above board, that you've been bringing in higher revenue than us and Real Madrid for feck sake.
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