Important post. Glad that you added that to the moan about moaning fest.
City show there are NO excuses for our opening day flop | Utd return the favour GW2
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Covid = most congested fixture list in history and shortest break between seasons. What was the break, 2 weeks?
Combined with the fact we have had piss poor squad depth for years now compared with any top team, let alone City who have the biggest squad depth of any club.
Wake up FFS.
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That City team had 8 players who've won the PL, in addition to Pep who's a serial winner.
Our team had 1 (De Gea).
Perhaps that's where some of the differences between us and City begin...
Our team had 1 (De Gea).
Perhaps that's where some of the differences between us and City begin...
Forget the first game, forget the two Liverpool wins, forget that Arsenal also have 6 points out of 6, forget the past 2 weeks in fact, the point is, every club has invested despite many claiming Covid would impact their finances.
Why are we still dangling in mid-air with Sancho with no solid reports about us in the market for a few other positions where we need back-up and/or quality?
What is going on at the club which "can do things in the market that other clubs can only dream of", apparently??
Why are we still dangling in mid-air with Sancho with no solid reports about us in the market for a few other positions where we need back-up and/or quality?
What is going on at the club which "can do things in the market that other clubs can only dream of", apparently??
Check the minutes played last season for let's say De Bruyne or Traore in Wolves, they didn't look knackered. Our mentality vs Palace was more the culprit than fitness.
This. We should have still won but I get why we didn't. We're a better team than Palace but we just weren't up to it based on these reasons.
and yet Palace consistently get points away from home against the top 6. So Wolves may be better overall but Palace are a particularly tricky opponent for big teams.
Or the league got more competitive.
Which was still possible for us before the weird penalty decision and retake. We didn’t deserve anything but we still had a chance of fighting back from 1-0 down. After the 2nd goal it was much less likely. The 3rd goal is just from chasing the game.
Wolves beat CIty twice last season and has caused us problems too.
We should really beat Palace at home.
I'm not sure I would have fully grasped the point without the all caps "no."
Why is it always the shite posters who think every thought that pops into their head deserves its own thread?
As Soon as I saw this thread I said to myself I bet there’s loads of moving goalposts by some of our fans to justify that abomination we saw on Saturday. You just knew city would show us up tonight.
We’re just not a very professional team, whether it’s off the field or getting yourself into condition to perform on the field. It’s been like this since Mourinho. We don’t have a coaching team capable of whipping this group into peak performance conditioning.
As expected.
So being a PL winner makes you naturally fitter?
To those now using the "city have a better squad" Villa played their first game also and won, so lets be hearing the excuses for that .
The contrast between opening day last season when we battered Chelsea to the pathetic showing on Sunday is alarming.
Granted the circumstances are quiet different and there wasn't much of any preseason but that's the case for every side and we still looked more unprepared than everyone.
I'd imagine that our negligence in the transfer market as just about every rival around us strengthens wouldn't help with the overall feeling in the camp but there's no reason to be getting handled by Crystal Palace
Granted the circumstances are quiet different and there wasn't much of any preseason but that's the case for every side and we still looked more unprepared than everyone.
I'd imagine that our negligence in the transfer market as just about every rival around us strengthens wouldn't help with the overall feeling in the camp but there's no reason to be getting handled by Crystal Palace
Aston Villa have played 5 friendlies so far. They're no way in the same position. The only comparable team was Man City.
Damn knew we played each other, didnt know about the others, feck thats a fair few all the same, thanks for the info.
City's 2019/20 season ended one day before United's, then their 2020/21 season started 2 days later than ours, so that's three days City had on United fitness wise for starters ....
Seeing many posts mocking City 
Do you guys need a reality check to see how far City are ahead of us?
Do you guys need a reality check to see how far City are ahead of us?Hate to say it but City are a better team than you with a much much better squad, I think Wolves are a better comparison as they also often rely on an unchanged 1st team and they looked knackered.
Well done OP. Spot on.
At the end of the day, the difference is Pep. The team City put out last night, bar KdB, is no better than the team we put out on Saturday, yet we lost and they dispatched Wolves comfortably. Why? We have Ole and they have Pep. It’s simple.
At the end of the day, the difference is Pep. The team City put out last night, bar KdB, is no better than the team we put out on Saturday, yet we lost and they dispatched Wolves comfortably. Why? We have Ole and they have Pep. It’s simple.
And I said it before the game in the GW2 thread. With Pep, let’s be honest, anything is possible.
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Is that the score of Ole vs Pep H2H last season?
We lost against Crystal fecking Palace, not Manchester CitySeeing many posts mocking City
Something about how Wolves are not as good/fit as Palace bullshit excuse I guess.
The second goal against us was unfair and unreasonable in many ways. If they didn't get that, who knows what the score would have been at the end but we'd still have played poor. The players were pumped up just like us but we didn't win the semi finals last season and so we really need to show ambition and I feel the board have demotivated the players and our anxiety is manifested in the football. The Glazers should sell the club because they are a liability. City will have their own dramas to contend with. Messi was quiet..
Of course there is no excuse. This has only come from those desperate to find one. We have a squad full of players miles better than those at Palace who are full internationals and extremely well paid. We are also supposed to have better managers and coaches than a club like Palace. So there's absolutely no lame ass excuse that should be presented for losing to then at home on opening day other than - we weren't good enough.
It's not the lost that bothers me, it's the lethargic limp displayThe second goal against us was unfair and unreasonable in many ways. If they didn't get that, who knows what the score would have been at the end but we'd still have played poor. The players were pumped up just like us but we didn't win the semi finals last season and so we really need to show ambition and I feel the board have demotivated the players and our anxiety is manifested in the football. The Glazers should sell the club because they are a liability. City will have their own dramas to contend with. Messi was quiet..
Fluke happens, points lost and won on fine margin, that doesn't bother me. But if we can't get pumped up after last season 18 lostless run and show some hunger for more this season on our first game, then what's there to hope for this season? It's one thing losing a match, it's another starting a season with passion
Are you justifying the gulf in quality between us and City only based on one game? They have been miles ahead of us for quite some time now.
Next game can't come fast enough.. the amount of shit Redcafe has lost on one game is crazy. I think atleast 3-4 threads solely to analyse that game. It is truly redcafe goes into meltdown!
Everyone is going to feel the effect at some point in the season, the advantage lies with those who has good depth in the squad and can rotate properly
That's just your gut feeling or is there any logic to your prediction?
Bit of both. City need a new Aguero if they are to score enough goals in those tight matches over a season. The way that Mane does for Liverpool.
Aguero is City's Mane equivalent and he's missing for the next two months. He's also 32 and won't come back to form for several matches even when he's back. During this time I can see city dropping quite a few points while I can see Liverpool easily getting 100 points this season.
There is a vacuum in our squad when it comes to winners. That’s why I find it appalling that Maguire is a captain. The bloke has never achieved anything of note in the game. Sums up the systematic lowering of standards at United.
So now we're using last season as an excuse for the loss to Palace? Holy feck.
If we don’t sign anyone (which is looking more and more likely) it’s best to write off the season at this point.
No it wasn’t 2 weeks FFS. It was 5 and considering that we had a 3 month break not too long ago too, the fatigue excuse is ridiculous.
What a load of crap this statement is.