Darkhorsez
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Good take on the situation ...
http://www.espn.com/soccer/english-...-jose-mourinho-feud-theyre-out-of-their-minds
http://www.espn.com/soccer/english-...-jose-mourinho-feud-theyre-out-of-their-minds
I think he meant "C U Next Tuesday". Maybe.what am I missing here?
I am too often bored when I watch the team play.
heheI think he meant "C U Next Tuesday". Maybe.
Two things are obvious:
1. Jose is still mad because Chelsea fans embraced Conte and replaced his toxicity with the Italian's energy and ambition. Not to mention that Conte won the league with a team that Jose left on the 16th place or something.
2. Most of the United fans seem to have completely forgotten what they were thinking about Mourinho before he joined the club.
Honestly, guys, we all thought that he's a cnut. Nothing has changed with him, except for the fact that he's United's manager now. And now most of you try to defend his bollocks.
The man is just an angry child and he cannot get over himself.
A lot of people talk a lot about how this is a mind game that Mourinho's winning. Yeah, right, like that can do any good to this huge club.
Problem is that his stupid mind games are the only things that he's winning lately. And don't hit me with that Carabao Cup and Community Shield Glory.
Manchester United, as a club, is just not compatible with this guy's antics. Just like Real Madrid wasn't and look how their relationship ended after all.
I am so sick and tired of hearing him moaning over and over again. It's just boring and not fun anymore. It doesn't even matter if he's right.
I cannot defend a guy who stuck a finger inside Tito's eye. He's just a pathetic clown and I cannot wait for the club to fire his petty bum.
Of course but if he were Everton manager he'd win nothing. He looks well short of his best and to cover for that he's falling out with everyone.You're an Everton supporter and what you say is fair enough.
But if Jose joined Everton, you'd love each and every trophy he'd win for your club.
I like that rivals are now hating us again. Post SAF, rivals pittied us. Called us boring. MCFC fans pleaded for us not to sack Moyes. We were the laughing stock.
The laughing is slowly turning to hate....just as it was during the SAF years.
Think he's actually Conte incognito posting on here.Wow.
You are really angry.
Great rant. In scale of 1 to 10 I'll give you 11.Two things are obvious:
1. Jose is still mad because Chelsea fans embraced Conte and replaced his toxicity with the Italian's energy and ambition. Not to mention that Conte won the league with a team that Jose left on the 16th place or something.
2. Most of the United fans seem to have completely forgotten what they were thinking about Mourinho before he joined the club.
Honestly, guys, we all thought that he's a cnut. Nothing has changed with him, except for the fact that he's United's manager now. And now most of you try to defend his bollocks.
The man is just an angry child and he cannot get over himself.
A lot of people talk a lot about how this is a mind game that Mourinho's winning. Yeah, right, like that can do any good to this huge club.
Problem is that his stupid mind games are the only things that he's winning lately. And don't hit me with that Carabao Cup and Community Shield Glory.
Manchester United, as a club, is just not compatible with this guy's antics. Just like Real Madrid wasn't and look how their relationship ended after all.
I am so sick and tired of hearing him moaning over and over again. It's just boring and not fun anymore. It doesn't even matter if he's right.
I cannot defend a guy who stuck a finger inside Tito's eye. He's just a pathetic clown and I cannot wait for the club to fire his petty bum.
You're right! He said "fire his petty bum." That is one almighty put down. Must remember that one if someone transgresses against me!Wow.
You are really angry.
Hahaha, really, man?
"Brought them the first Copa Del Rey in like 16 years" ))
Show this to a Real Madrid fan and they'll laugh in your face.
Once again, wishful thinking and ignoring of facts. Before winning it in 2011 with Jose, Real Madrid previously won Copa Del Rey in 1993. http://www.worldfootball.net/winner/esp-copa-del-rey/
Mourinho was a failure at Madrid. He was brought there to win the UCL and he wasn't able to do that.
Once again, not a true statement. It's not like they were winning everything but the CL so he was brought in to be judged solely on that. This would actually apply to Guardiola in Bayern.
Regarding Conte and his league title, he did it by completely changing the system. It wasn't Mourinho's team at all.
Mourinho sold Luiz, while Conte got him back and won the league using the guy. Kante was signed by Conte. Pedro was given an actual real chance by Conte.
The core of the team was the same, which Jose put together.
There were plenty of changes that the Italian made at Chelsea, after Mourinho completely lost it the previous season.
But if you say that Conte won the league using Mourinho's team, then I guess we could also say that Mourinho won those 3 second-hand competitions using Van Gaal's team, right?
Once again, false logic. Mourihno was successful with Chelsea, and Conte just repeated that success with the same team that finished 2nd and 1st in 2 of previous 3 seasons. On the other hand Van Gaal only won the FA Cup, played awful football, left the team in the Europa League, and created a team full of dead wood that Mourihno is still having to sort out. Despite having to overhaul the team, deal with huge injury problems with key players, and being very inefficient in converting chances, Utd won 3 trophies, including the one that qualified them to the CL - all in his first year.
But, of course, it's easier to blame it on the players, media, the opponents. Anyone but the guy, right? That was exactly what Chelsea fans used to say when he was their manager.
Just wait until Jose leaves United and you'll all be saying the same stuff about the man. Specially if he joins another EPL team.
Ask yourselves: what if Mourinho was Liverpool's manager? Who would you think it's the delulded one in this argument?
I see that you will never forget this.
Regarding the Wenger story, my mistake. Mourinho did grab his tie, though. And he stil poke Tito's eye.
Let me guess; you're a Barcelona fan.
Well said Sir! I completely agree.Two things are obvious:
1. Jose is still mad because Chelsea fans embraced Conte and replaced his toxicity with the Italian's energy and ambition. Not to mention that Conte won the league with a team that Jose left on the 16th place or something.
2. Most of the United fans seem to have completely forgotten what they were thinking about Mourinho before he joined the club.
Honestly, guys, we all thought that he's a cnut. Nothing has changed with him, except for the fact that he's United's manager now. And now most of you try to defend his bollocks.
The man is just an angry child and he cannot get over himself.
A lot of people talk a lot about how this is a mind game that Mourinho's winning. Yeah, right, like that can do any good to this huge club.
Problem is that his stupid mind games are the only things that he's winning lately. And don't hit me with that Carabao Cup and Community Shield Glory.
Manchester United, as a club, is just not compatible with this guy's antics. Just like Real Madrid wasn't and look how their relationship ended after all.
I am so sick and tired of hearing him moaning over and over again. It's just boring and not fun anymore. It doesn't even matter if he's right.
I cannot defend a guy who stuck a finger inside Tito's eye. He's just a pathetic clown and I cannot wait for the club to fire his petty bum.
So true!Honestly, guys, we all thought that he's a cnut. Nothing has changed with him, except for the fact that he's United's manager now. And now most of you try to defend his bollocks.
So you've noticed that the only one to get riled up during his responses to reporter questions is Conte, right? His most recent digs ("little man," "fake," "won't forget") are evidence enough. Why would he dig up Mourinho's history with Ranieri in such a directly personal way? Mourinho's responses are sly, and he never says things like "Conte is a baldy wearing a wig." Conte, in contrast, yelled in one of his responses.Well this fued has been on for over a year and he hasn't really shown to one up Conte on the pitch much. And I've seen the interviews tbh. Conte has had more presses and before Jose of late too so it just looks like he is banging on about it. All he's done is answer the questions asked to him though and it hadn't really distracted his side by the looks of it.
What an absolutely clueless statement. Let's see how the players treated a cup Final victory at Camp Nou, against a Barcelona side that was on a run of 6 Finals, 6 victories, winning 8 of the previous 10 competitions they competed in:"Brought them the first Copa Del Rey in like 16 years" ))
Show this to a Real Madrid fan and they'll laugh in your face.
And all he had to do was sign the defending PFA Player of the Year award-winner, Kante. Let's see which other slouches won that award (to see how their signings might help a club):Regarding Conte and his league title, he did it by completely changing the system. It wasn't Mourinho's team at all. Mourinho sold Luiz, while Conte got him back and won the league using the guy. Kante was signed by Conte. Pedro was given an actual real chance by Conte.
The players blamed themselves. Throughout the beginning of the season they blamed their poor results on their lack of fitness and lack of production. They took accountability in almost every interview they gave, because they knew they've fecked up.But, of course, it's easier to blame it on the players, media, the opponents.
Just figuring why jose would make such comments when by his own admission, he has matured.And?
Man, you are all so funny defending this guy with his fantastic COPA DEL REY success.
I'm just gonna wait until he leaves the club at the end of the season. Can't wait to see ya'll bragging about how Mourinho brought the mighty United back to winning ways by his Community fecking Shield accomplishment.
You are deflecting the conversation anyways. You talk about how Mourinho built Conte's team and so on so forth. Fact is that he's made a lot of mistakes.
He might've built the squad, but he lost the plot third season. Just like he always does! Because that's his character.
This discussion is about his character, not his managerial skills. Because all of your football skills go to shit sooner or later if you can't handle your ego.
I was hoping that he's more mature, more smart, more calm when he signed for United. But ever since he opened his mouth, he proved that nothing's changed.
Ok, he won three trophies, all of them second hand for such a club (even the Europa League), maybe he'll win one-two more, but the fact of the matter is that his legacy won't be a strong club. He does great with underdogs, like Porto, Chelsea or even Inter. But he fails misserably with clubs with an already based identity, like Real and, soon, United.
He's not reviving United's identity. He's completely redesigning it. And I don't like this new one. I don't like us not making any progress in terms of football quality during the last two seasons, even if we signed some of the best players out there.
I keep seeing people talking about how United is now hated again and how that's a great thing. You know what? United used to be hated for it being a successful club. Now we're just hated because our manager is a prick.
Just like Real were hated not because they won Copa del maldito Rey (hahaha, can't help it when it comes to this), but because they were a bunch of thugs led by a eye-poking twat.
You know what's the difference between the hate that SAF's United was receiving, compared to Mourinho's United? The respect. They hated us, but they respected us. All of them. Now it's just hate.
All posts about Jose and Chelsea.Thats called introducing yourself with a bang. Just 8 posts but already made a statement.
Oh and during Fergie they all respected us. Yeah right.
What I'm saying is you have Mourinho completely misunderstood. That's my point.[rant]
He has 2 tricky matches in that time against local rivals. I don't regard thay as a dip in form tbh.So you've noticed that the only one to get riled up during his responses to reporter questions is Conte, right? His most recent digs ("little man," "fake," "won't forget") are evidence enough. Why would he dig up Mourinho's history with Ranieri in such a directly personal way? Mourinho's responses are sly, and he never says things like "Conte is a baldy wearing a wig." Conte, in contrast, yelled in one of his responses.
Look, Conte's folly was falling for the media's schemes, then entering into a war of words he's not equipped to handle. But it's also possible he's now using this media-created incident to distract pressure from Morata's recent struggles, and media reports that Hazard and Courtois are leaving to Madrid, and his team's recent dip in form:
D 03-01-2018 Arsenal 2 : 2
D 06-01-2018 Norwich 0 : 0
D 10-01-2018 Arsenal 0 : 0 (H)
Any chance to post this.Mourinho was rated on Redcafe, he was hated by Liverpool fans, Arsenal fans but there was always big section of ManUtd fans who loved him before he was ManUtd manager.
Apart from that what a strange post.
Generally speaking United fans have always held Jose in high regard. I Think it helps that he shared a somewhat close relationship with Fergie.Any chance to post this.
Most United fans liked Jose before he joined, amongst other things, this...
Hopefully Conte goes on a "facht list" or "i'll luv it" rant.So Jose had one more (who actually believes that?) thing to say to Conte today:
"I think when a person insults another you can expect a response or you can expect contempt.
'The first time he insulted me I had a response, a response that I know touched the point where he really feels hurt.
'Then he insulted me for a second time but now I change and now contempt, and for me contempt means end of the story.'"
Source: Many news outlets. Check 'em out.
This. My Arsenal and Liverpool supporting mates can't stand him and often expressed this. Even before he became our manager, I remember remarking how weird this was because if not for Mourinho's Chelsea, we'd have won more titles. We should have been the one who detested him but no, Arsenal and Liverpool fans hate him more.Generally speaking United fans have always held Jose in high regard. I Think it helps that he shared a somewhat close relationship with Fergie.
I remember the United fans bellowing this out at Stamford Bridge after we won the title. The look on Jose's face was a picture.
He didn't return to Old Trafford that season.This. My Arsenal and Liverpool supporting mates can't stand him and often expressed this. Even before he became our manager, I remember remarking how weird this was because if not for Mourinho's Chelsea, we'd have won more titles. We should have been the one who detested him but no, Arsenal and Liverpool fans hate him more.
I remember the chin up Mourinho gestures the fans did to him when he returned to Old Trafford the season after we took back the title, mocking the gestures he made after the last game at Stamford Bridge the previous season. Good times. He was gone by that season, replaced by Avram Grant.
It would be fun then, 2 jumping idiots trying to defend there antics on side lines. Don't see park football coaches doing it they would get some stick.You wicked one.
But that's part of the game: to see who cracks first. And it was Conte. That's not just based on the type of attacks ("he's a fake," "little man," "i won't forget this"), but in how emotional Conte got during his response.Also him referencing Mourinho directly means little, Ive eluded to that in the past. He can be cryptic in his pressers but he's never so cryptic as to have the press not knowing whom he's talking about.
A very common tendency in these types of situations is to make false equivalences: neither is winning, they both look bad. Many people are put off by this type of spat and want it to stop, but let's not pretend like both are equal parties here: Conte was played by the media, got riled up, responded, then allowed himself to get roped into it again, leading to the current week's events.In any case, if you follow my posts I haven't defended either manager. I just struggle to see how Conte is worse off. He reacted by directly addressing Mourinho but that's about it.
This. Conte would have been at it again today I think if he didn't have his Chelsea chaperone to talk on his behalf.Basically saying Conte started the insult . Jose replied with the match fixing comment knowing its a touchy subject for the cheat.
And when Conte started crying Jose wants to stop.. because its no fun when the other guy cant keep up and starts crying.
The greatest non-United moment in the history of footballAny chance to post this.
Most United fans liked Jose before he joined, amongst other things, this...