defraud the people? police in certain parts of the country have their hands literally tied by the local DA's you see examples of it in San Francisco and Seattle on a daily basis. The people go into a store and loot without any fear of prosecution so what do you expect the cops to do when they can't stop them
Cop in America doing a bad job, again
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There is so much BS about the US Police force that is taken as truth and so little credit given it's incredible.
We need a Cop In the USA is Doing his/her Job Thread.
We need a Cop In the USA is Doing his/her Job Thread.
Elaborate on the BS.
Why? They're doing the job they're paid.
Progressives denying that people are feeling unsafe in these big metro cities is somewhat similar to right-wing using stats to show how police violence against Blacks gets overblown because of some other numbers around Black on Black violence. The notion that media campaign and propaganda has led to some portion of the populace to feel more unsafe in last few years seems flimsy. Just anecdotally, I knew many folks living in Bay area who have been voicing their quality of life being impacted by petty crime for last ~3 years now. I am not saying that is due to progressive policies by DA or any other officials, that part of the inference is a bit overblown in the media. But denying that it is a problem is an issue with some on the left.
Even if we accept that departments are being defunded (they’re not) there is not even a close equivalence between having fewer resources and choosing to not do you job.
As for the camera thing? The use of cameras is a necessary these days. LE has proved itself to be unreliable and dishonest in its actions and subsequent reporting.
I was inferring from your “it’s not worth it” that you were commiserating. If not, then apologies.
Observing and ignoring crime (like the officer in Seattle that kicked off this discussion) us, in my mind, actively refusing to do the job.
Yeah, and it's a fecking horrible job when any and all suspects can be just as if not better armed then you; and then we ask why they are on the edge?
The police force in the US with their insane gun laws are akin almost to war zones in terms of stress. You have a society that gives guns to any half wit and then complain that the police are on the edge and rather violent.
The police is not the fecking problem. The gun laws are.
Why does it have to be either or? Clearly it's both. Or should we just ignore the George Floyd's of this world where cops kill at will regardless of whether there's a gun in the equation or not.
I'd make a list, but best to just read the last 216 pages, which probably doesn't even paint the full picture.
And again, doesn't have to be the only problem, but it certain is one of the bigger problems.
It's not as if they don't know the gun laws before they take the job. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Cops here in the UK are daily at risk, doesn't mean they get off scott free for their mistakes. They earn a decent crust because its a dangerous job.
Not for the want of trying..
The US police have an incredibly well organised and powerful union, which along with qualified immunity has for a long time led to really low accountability.
In the UK the police and the support infrastructure protect their own too.
Which is why it is insane that Police Departments are not at the leading edge of gun reform.
The irony being that a lot of them are republicans who don't believe in unionisation
There is an inherent selfishness in conservatism that leads to these types of hypocrisies!
If you live in the US you know why they are not. There is a party that makes them look like Hitler in person, and there is a party that protects any and all abuses. Both are insane, but one has a semblance of respect for the uniform.
The left makes the police look like the storm troopers of Vader and then complain why oh why do they vote right. I know a few police officers in the US by my martial arts training, they as me are fundamental left voters.
I feel like the US people would feel better if they knew how Police Forces operate in different countries. Like how the German police reacts to a high threat situation.
I make Japan jobs fairly often. Do you know the level of tolerance of the police there? It is 0. You make the wrong move you are a suspect. I like this
That's what you responded to. They sayd defraud the people, and you said it works both ways because some people want to defund the police. What on earth does that mean, that's what I want to know. If you think defraud the people is a wrong accusation, then obviously that should be your response.
They found the mystery weed they can always miraculously smell when they want to search a car!
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Let's get the thread back on track
Do they not realize how fecking stupid they look in those white masks?
Plays well off their pasty white skin though.
It’s their way of showing they have friends of all races and backgrounds.
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I watch auto racing and football on the weekends. Maybe these asshats would be better off if they did the same instead of dressing up in their militia for dummies outfits and rolling around in the back of a uhall truck. Way to go coppers!
that looks like a textbook tip off from an insider that knew they were going there to start a murder spree.
^ this.
Maybe it’s a sign of how jaded I can get, that I’m surprised the cops stopped them and arrested them.
Maybe it’s a sign of how jaded I can get, that I’m surprised the cops stopped them and arrested them.
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They are going to be going nuts trying to figure out who the leak is. Hope they implode from within (and I hope the inside man is safe right now).
If so then they're the dumbest bunch of white supremacists ever. Couer d'Alene isn't exactly a hotbed of multiculturalism.
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Targeting Pride makes sense. Weirdos.
So not an inside man, but an attentive hotel staff member, lucky they took it seriously. The way they were setting up definately screamed mass murder attempt.
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Remember someone here saying that they used whips from horseback simply because it was the efficient and correct thing to do.
Those type of coins have gotten American police in serious trouble at times.
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