calodo2003
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Always amazed at how evergreen this cat’s monologues consistently are…
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There's hardly a day I don't think about something he made fun of. Yesterday we had a parade of cyclists "protest" around town and I immediately thought about his bit about people with a cause (and hats) .Always amazed at how evergreen this cat’s monologues consistently are…
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That will have played a part in it, but if the 5 murderers were white officers there’s zero doubt in my mind that they’d currently be on paid administrative leave pending investigation.Don’t you think the swift response is more down to an effort to prevent the same riots happening again? Same way there was loads of efforts at damage limiting PR before the footage was released?
It amazes me. That even if you're evil, at least you're not that dumb to kill a man in broad daylight or shoot a man having a seizure in front of a whole loads of bodycam.At least the trial will be wrapped up quickly. There will be zero appetite for trying to exonerate 5 black cops, zero going the extra mile to reveal any mitigating circumstances, zero lame-ass excuses trying to rationalise their behaviour.
Those cops are too dumb to realise that even with their perceived power, they're still in a lose-lose situation.
Weird how other countries have police forces too. I hate this blanket bullsh*t . It's an easy soundbite that excuses actual action. Policing - upholding laws that govern a society - has been around far before slave ships left for America, but some want you to only see one thing everywhere.Tweet
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Policing in America in large swaths of the then country was literally groups of white men trying to round up escaped / freed black slaves. Racism is in the DNA of the institution in this country.Weird how other countries have police forces too. I hate this blanket bullsh*t . It's an easy soundbite that excuses actual action. Policing - upholding laws that govern a society - has been around far before slave ships left for America, but some want you to only see one thing everywhere.
There is racism in policing. Policing is many things.
There has to be a way to set the bar a lot higher because this just cannot go on anymore. I swear we North Americans just suck at learning from some of the "older" countries (yes, I'm including Canadian police because the low number of training hours prior to full entry in the service compared to other countries) on how to police more efficiently. Either the funds are diverted into alternative programs and improved training instead of needless hardware, or we defund the whole shit altogether. Either way, there has to be a budget limit that forces into responsible spending.The entrance screening & educational requirements are laughably miniscule v. other countries’ requirements.
We had a cop with his knee on a man's neck for 9 minutes in full view of the phone cam wielding public while an off-duty medic pleaded with him to render assistance not so long ago. What do you think?It amazes me. That even if you're evil, at least you're not that dumb to kill a man in broad daylight or shoot a man having a seizure in front of a whole loads of bodycam.
Are they that dumb? Or what?
So the solution for a country where people in power use excessive violence on innocent victims is to use extreme violence on 300 million people. Got it.We had a cop with his knee on a man's neck for 9 minutes in full view of the phone cam wielding public while an off-duty medic pleaded with him to render assistance not so long ago. What do you think?
America is rotten to the core. I hate that place with a vengeance. Just nuke it and start again!
Holy cow, I was reading this page bottom to top and didn't know you were quoting other people for a minute and was wondering what the hell is wrong with you. I could not read the comments in any Fox News source without wanting to vomit.And lastly from me posting...there's loads more
Had he complied, he would be home right now and would not have had to post bond. He fought police attempts to handcuff him at both confrontations, he felt no pain from strikes, and pepper spray did nothing to stop his resistance. He was either high, crazy, or both. He created his own destiny
Tweets like this are inevitable after highly charged incidents. Rest assured policing isn't going anywhere, although there will be intense (but temporary) pressure to reform aspects of it.Weird how other countries have police forces too. I hate this blanket bullsh*t . It's an easy soundbite that excuses actual action. Policing - upholding laws that govern a society - has been around far before slave ships left for America, but some want you to only see one thing everywhere.
There is racism in policing. Policing is many things.
I'm all for that - that's what should be the response here. There are some excellent analyses into the reduction in training that officers receive, the 'talent-pools' from which hiring is happening and the percentage of funding going to stupid stuff like weaponry.Tweets like this are inevitable after highly charged incidents. Rest assured policing isn't going anywhere, although there will be intense (but temporary) pressure to reform aspects of it.
You're damn right! Feck America! I would say that most of those people are complicit by default with the whole gun ownership/crime thing and institutionalised racism in every aspect of US life. If Sandy Hook and the hundreds of school shootings ain't enough to move you people to act then feck the lot of you. Just rip it up and start again.So the solution for a country where people in power use excessive violence on innocent victims is to use extreme violence on 300 million people. Got it.
IndeedThat "Remember: Keep it constructive" banner at the bottom of this thread is a piss-take!
Fecking remove it!
You're damn right! Feck America! I would say that most of those people are complicit by default with the whole gun ownership/crime thing and institutionalised racism in every aspect of US life. If Sandy Hook and the hundreds of school shootings ain't enough to move you people to act then feck the lot of you. Just rip it up and start again.
I don't think it's quite that easy here. Memphis is about 60% black; whites are the visible minority. The Police Chief is black, and I may be mistaken, but I think the city's administration is mostly black. I expect the police union is as well. If the offending cops were white they might be afforded gentler treatment on the basis of minority status rather than privilege, but I'm not at all convinced they would be treated any differently in this case.That will have played a part in it, but if the 5 murderers were white officers there’s zero doubt in my mind that they’d currently be on paid administrative leave pending investigation.
Indeed. It’s like someone asking why America’s prison-industrial complex has anything to do with slavery.Policing in America in large swaths of the then country was literally groups of white men trying to round up escaped / freed black slaves. Racism is in the DNA of the institution in this country.
it's basically the concept of government under which significant powers are shared between the Federal and the Regional /State Governments. It's actually what was part of the original orientation of the founding fathers
I disagree, it's an outdated Constitution that is the real problemThe US is more or less the worst version of a democracy you can think of.
I only look now and then to see what is being said, and sometimes to add a comment to wind them upHoly cow, I was reading this page bottom to top and didn't know you were quoting other people for a minute and was wondering what the hell is wrong with you. I could not read the comments in any Fox News source without wanting to vomit.
The USA was founded off the back of one to start witha riot is never an legitimate response to anything....that's just foolish
The complicating factor is that in the interim between the last BLM protests (George Floyd) and now, police killings are higher than ever before.Don’t you think the swift response is more down to an effort to prevent the same riots happening again? Same way there was loads of efforts at damage limiting PR before the footage was released?
So I'm not sure how much PR or wanting to prevent riots matters to police - it certainly means more overtime pay! Maybe someone in the chain of command personally disliked this video, and so decided to take action.Law enforcement killed at least 1,176 people or about 100 people a month last year, making it the deadliest for police violence
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/06/us-police-killings-record-number-2022
What do you think the relation between police and minorities in the rest of the world is?Weird how other countries have police forces too. I hate this blanket bullsh*t . It's an easy soundbite that excuses actual action. Policing - upholding laws that govern a society - has been around far before slave ships left for America, but some want you to only see one thing everywhere.
There is racism in policing. Policing is many things.
Don't forget the time they had a family handcuffed and down on the hot asphalt when it was over 100 degrees with the babies screaming. The stolen vehicle they were after was actually a motorcycle not a family wagon. Cops in America are a pack of dumb abusive cnuts.We had a cop with his knee on a man's neck for 9 minutes in full view of the phone cam wielding public while an off-duty medic pleaded with him to render assistance not so long ago. What do you think?
America is rotten to the core. I hate that place with a vengeance. Just nuke it and start again!
A toxic culture prone to violence, thoroughly desensitized and jaded and lacking any semblence of empathy, it's not just their unit, it's a vast swathe of the population of the United States. Not everyone by any measure but a big slice unfortunately.I can't seem to fathom why this has happened?
Is there something underlying here? Police brutality has been linked partly to racism before but in this case its diminished by the perpetrators being black.
Why did those 5 police officers beat an innocent guy they didn't know to death? A toxic culture in their unit?
It’s not quite as simple as saying race didn’t play a part just because the 5 officers were black.I can't seem to fathom why this has happened?
Is there something underlying here? Police brutality has been linked partly to racism before but in this case its diminished by the perpetrators being black.
Why did those 5 police officers beat an innocent guy they didn't know to death? A toxic culture in their unit?
That’s the hardest thing to take. The fact that from the cctv video he appears to be already out and they are holding him up so each can keep punching him.but the jarring aspect of the TN video is that he was completely defenseless during the beating.
I said diminished, not 'race didnt play a part'. I dont think this would have happened if the victim was white. But I am still shocked it happened to a black man at the hands of black officers.It’s not quite as simple as saying race didn’t play a part just because the 5 officers were black.
The fact is people in America, but especially the police, view a black person as inherently more dangerous than an equivalent white person. Whatever the race of the officer, this fundamental fact which is subconsciously present amongst police, and reaffirmed throughout their training, and in every day society.
Therefore the question isn’t if the officers are black why did this happen, but rather if the victim was not black, would this have happened?
Yeah, it certainly is. I was thinking the Rodney King video was the slightly worse of the two last night, but the defenselessness & the ability to hear what the cops were saying / how they were acting makes this video far worse.That’s the hardest thing to take. The fact that from the cctv video he appears to be already out and they are holding him up so each can keep punching him.
Even in street attacks, unless if alcohol is involved, there usually comes a stage where at least one will realise it’s going too far and stop it. But in this there wasn’t.
Don’t know if he is right or wrong. My dad saw it, he thinks there must have been a previous issue and it seemed very personal. Exact words “looks like they are taking out vengeance”. Before anyone jumps on his head, he is old and comes from a time when walking the streets at night would often see him get stopped by passers by asking him if he needed a lift or if he’s car had broken down etc.
I’ve heard this. But looking at both the videos I think even if they were white they would have been fired straight away.The officers being black is the only reason they were immediately fired and charged.
There will justifiably be protests and riots.
Do you think that when the incident involves Black Police Officers it does not get the same attention as when it involves White Officers? I have this terrible feeling that there might be more cases like this but there was no outrage just because it was a Black officer and the victim was Black. This current case might be different because it was 5 of them and it was kinda hard to ignore.I’ve heard this. But looking at both the videos I think even if they were white they would have been fired straight away.
Given the likelihood of a gun appearing it's not hard to understand why, doesn't excuse what happens sometimesThe sheer aggressiveness from American police is just something else. Even traffic stops are approached as life-or-death situations.
With there being more guns than people in my country, a routine traffic stop can be far from routine.The sheer aggressiveness from American police is just something else. Even traffic stops are approached as life-or-death situations.