romufc
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Yep, sorry I didnt read it, I corrected myself.It's stated in the article.
Yep, sorry I didnt read it, I corrected myself.It's stated in the article.
No problem.Yep, sorry I didnt read it, I corrected myself.
There's a chance that if they contract trace properly that it should be 3 clubs from 20 which cannot start preseason. I wonder how people will feel if Liverpool are included in that 3 or if the 3 players are Van Dijk, Salah and Mane will they be happy enough to start the season without them if they have any difficulties?Ratio is pretty small to be fair. 6 players from 3 clubs only. Won't stop the restarting plan if they want to do it.
Ridiculous that anyone is targeting Deeney or for that matter any player who does not want to train when things are so unclear. The whole project restart is just a toss of the coin, and it could go either ways. Understandable that all players don't share the same confidence as others.Deeney has a young kid with breathing issues, dont blame him whatsoever.
I will assume that the rest of the players and stuff in these 3 clubs were tested negative so it's these 6 players that won't play and won't start preseason. As for the assumption, of course Liverpool fans will complain then anyway, they will change their opinion based on the consequence but based on numbers and numbers, the ratio is pretty small to affect what FA are planning regarding the small.There's a chance that if they contract trace properly that it should be 3 clubs from 20 which cannot start preseason. I wonder how people will feel if Liverpool are included in that 3 or if the 3 players are Van Dijk, Salah and Mane will they be happy enough to start the season without them if they have any difficulties?
Ignore and move on. If money is the driving factor in Project Restart, such minor stuff will be ignored.
TBH, this could have been ten times worse, and I think the plan would have remained the same.
Does anyone actually think the PL care how many people test positive? They probably have a trade of between the £ and infection rate.TBH, this could have been ten times worse, and I think the plan would have remained the same.
It's not a question about blaming individual players. It's about footballers being held to the same standards as the rest of the population. Nearly everyone has at risk family members but we don't have the luxury to stop working due to this. Deeney or any other player is well within their rights to not play and ask for a leave or dispensation. The issue is they are saying the whole footballing industry should not come back to business because the players are at risk. We are all at the risk when we go to work, but we can't call for our businesses to remain shut. It's the entitlement from some players that is grating.Ridiculous that anyone is targeting Deeney or for that matter any player who does not want to train when things are so unclear. The whole project restart is just a toss of the coin, and it could go either ways. Understandable that all players don't share the same confidence as others.
Actually, this is not correct. Football falls under the entertainment category, like theatres, etc.. which are not been told to go back to work.The issue is they are saying the whole footballing industry should not come back to business because the players are at risk. We are all at the risk when we go to work, but we can't call for our businesses to remain shut. It's the entitlement from some players that is grating.
Has there been any footballers that have demanded to be paid whilst refusing to play? What entitlement are you referring to?It's not a question about blaming individual players. It's about footballers being held to the same standards as the rest of the population. Nearly everyone has at risk family members but we don't have the luxury to stop working due to this. Deeney or any other player is well within their rights to not play and ask for a leave or dispensation. The issue is they are saying the whole footballing industry should not come back to business because the players are at risk. We are all at the risk when we go to work, but we can't call for our businesses to remain shut. It's the entitlement from some players that is grating.
It's not just football, television drama production is returning in the UK.Actually, this is not correct. Football falls under the entertainment category, like theatres, etc.. which are not been told to go back to work.
Why is it that only football is so eager to get back?
Would you be happy for all of next season to be played behind closed doors? including CL ties?It's not just football, television drama production is returning in the UK.
and socially distancing I think? Rewriting scripts?It's not just football, television drama production is returning in the UK.
Thats grand when there is only goods invovled. When you have people involved they can say feck offDoes anyone actually think the PL care how many people test positive? They probably have a trade of between the £ and infection rate.
No. But it's going to probably have to, and players will continue to contract this thing while it does. Football needs to convert to a model, temporarily, which mitigates risk and approximates the game as much as possible. This is what everything is going to do over the coming months: tv production is doing it, bars and restaurants will do it, live entertainment will do it. None of those things are going to return to their pre-covid form right away but we have to make do. No business is going to wait until it's all or nothing, they'll return in a different form that mitigates risks.Would you be happy for all of next season to be played behind closed doors? including CL ties?
?you do know people have and are dying from this thing, right?
Yep, almost all the other European leagues are also desperately trying to restart JUST because Liverpool can win the league. You have it spot on.All this, just so youse can wave an * around.
What about the people that the 6 were in contact with ? Arent they meant to self isolate for 14 days?6 is too small, 30+ might have made them rethink the plan.
I agree you cannot wait until a vaccine is available but it seems rushed to me this project restart. Just like alot of things the govt has done.No. But it's going to probably have to, and players will continue to contract this thing while it does. Football needs to convert to a model, temporarily, which mitigates risk and approximates the game as much as possible. This is what everything is going to do over the coming months: tv production is doing it, bars and restaurants will do it, live entertainment will do it. None of those things are going to return to their pre-covid form right away but we have to make do. No business is going to wait until it's all or nothing, they'll return in a different form that mitigates risks.
Because the alternative is to wait for a vaccine for could take years and try to restart the professional game from whatever total wreckage we're left with.
Fair, and I don't doubt that we'd have thousands crowding the streets if/when they announce it.No, you’re right, we wouldn’t but we’re shite right now so it’s unlikely to cause anyone any health concerns.
He has all the right to do so just as anyone else.His view is understandable but he's speaking from a very privileged position which not many people can afford in these circumstances. Let's see how long Watford are comfortable with his stance if they're in the relegation zone once football resumes.
Thirty years of crying and gnashing of teeth won't be put to bed for you by this * league.It's really been a delight to follow this thread. From the optimism of the voiding to the bitterness of now as that possibility has faded. It's been brilliant, me and my Scouse friends have enjoyed certain posts very much. Thank you guys!!
The entitlement of thinking that the entire industry should not be back at work because a few individuals are uncomfortable with the situation. If I'm uncomfortable about going to the office, I wouldn't be asking my entire company to not open at all.Has there been any footballers that have demanded to be paid whilst refusing to play? What entitlement are you referring to?
Are you being told to be within 10cm of each other in your office?The entitlement of thinking that the entire industry should not be back at work because a few individuals are uncomfortable with the situation. If I'm uncomfortable about going to the office, I wouldn't be asking my entire company to not open at all.
Can't really compare normal jobs to football in that respect. People who have normally jobs wont be continually tested and be isolated with their colleagues which is what is happening to the footballers precisely due to the physical nature of the sport.Are you being told to be within 10cm of each other in your office?
Is this your first day on this thread?What's a minor issue like a few virus deaths when on the other hand there is more money to be made?
Let the handshakes and spitting commence.
Can't they just end the season with the placings now as final?
Pay me 100k per week when my colleagues are being tested twice a week, and I'd be happy to have them within 10 cm of me. Not to mention when you have to use public transport at full capacity, social distancing kind of goes out of the window.Are you being told to be within 10cm of each other in your office?
They haven't been in contact with their teammates for weeks?What about the people that the 6 were in contact with ? Arent they meant to self isolate for 14 days?
Could be the whole first team that cant train for 2 weeks.
Did you even bother your hole reading that article ?In all fairness though he's just another individual who's been crippled by fear. Constant depressing news about the number of deaths increasing day after day after day. There's plenty of others just like him. It's gotten to the stage now I reckon where the biggest danger lies more in long-term mental health issues for thousands & thousands of people who've all who've been mentally scarred by the events of the past few months. Footballers are not like your everyday Joe Bloggs who work in a factory or building site. They live an isolated life anyway & so this stuff probably feeds on their insecurities more than it would for the rest of us.
I have a baby roughly the same age and I would take the exact same stance if there was a health condition!My son is only five months old, he had breathing difficulties, so I don't want to come home to put him in more danger."
No not really. I'm just amazed that such a big risk is going to be taken.Is this your first day on this thread?
So they say.They haven't been in contact with their teammates for weeks?
I really don't understand why more people don't get this. The solution is not to close all industries that aren't "essential" and risk financial ruin. We have to figure out ways to live and thrive with this virus, and yes that includes the football industry also.No. But it's going to probably have to, and players will continue to contract this thing while it does. Football needs to convert to a model, temporarily, which mitigates risk and approximates the game as much as possible. This is what everything is going to do over the coming months: tv production is doing it, bars and restaurants will do it, live entertainment will do it. None of those things are going to return to their pre-covid form right away but we have to make do. No business is going to wait until it's all or nothing, they'll return in a different form that mitigates risks.
Because the alternative is to wait for a vaccine for could take years and try to restart the professional game from whatever total wreckage we're left with.
We've literally had 313 pages thrashing over why you can't just take places as they are. That's why I askNo not really. I'm just amazed that such a big risk is going to be taken.
Wouldnt those 3 teams then have to quarantine if this happened once training began?Ratio is pretty small to be fair. 6 players from 3 clubs only. Won't stop the restarting plan if they want to do it.