R'hllor
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Weirdos have really no shame to use his tragedy as a focus on certain issue some portion of fans have with him, when nobody in right mind having a go at him for that tragedy. fecking hell.
Even as a critic of Ronaldo I agree. Elanga is terrible and Martial and rashford have proven they can't consistently put up the numbers.I really don't understand the logic of those that wanted Ronaldo to go unless the club were prepared to sign either an established goal scorer or top talent. Neither of which are growing on trees. The thought of Rashford and Martial as our only options honestly makes me nauseous.
Thats a very fair post. His touch does seem gone, that was shocking to me from his first game back for us. Idk if he’s slow though, def not as fast anymore but I wouldn’t call him slow.If he starts playing well for us Man Utd fans will be happy. I don't think the "haters" are nearly as entrenched in him personally as the fanboys are.
I think most of us are just worried about having a 37 year old striker who looks slow and is inconsistent at passing the ball and controlling it under pressure.
Prime Robson over a Prime versions of one of the 4 GOATS of the game ? Too nbay arguably the GOAT?Nowhere near?? What absolute tosh. My dad (who was a City fan) rated Edwards as the best player he’d ever seen, my mate who’s been watching United since the early 60s rates Best as the finest. Whilst Ronaldo is probably the best goal scorer to have played for United I don’t think he’s anywhere near the all round player Best or Edwards where. To be honest I’d rather have prime Robson in my team than prime Ronaldo.
None whatsoever. Just allegedly ITK media sources interested in creating something they knew would drive clicks to their social media pages. They knew it would rile up the fan base amidst an otherwise very good summer for United, and it did.Genuine question - Was there ever any legitimate reports from Ronaldo or his agent saying he wants out? Or anything credible? Or was it all paper talk? I usually dont believe most of the press but it seems this was legit for no other reason that no one refuted the claims., not United or Ronaldo. However I dont think there was anything legit saying he was going either
Can’t wait for his truth. Should be interesting.What own actions? So far he barely spoke and all we have is rumous and rumours.
This was my position as well. Had he gone without a replacement, we would've struggled for goals all year.I really don't understand the logic of those that wanted Ronaldo to go unless the club were prepared to sign either an established goal scorer or top talent. Neither of which are growing on trees. The thought of Rashford and Martial as our only options honestly makes me nauseous.
You are right . Ronaldo never ever wanted to leave. He loves United and is a top red, giving his all for the team. Its all in his notebook and I am certain we will have the privilege of the king tell us how it really went very soon.None whatsoever. Just allegedly ITK media sources interested in creating something they knew would drive clicks to their social media pages. They knew it would rile up the fan base amidst an otherwise very good summer for United, and it did.
The fact Ronaldo or Mendes didnt outright deny the rumours speak for itself and the fact Ronaldo will have a big interview this month, not in August or July. Add to that the whole not turning up for preseason, strange story.Genuine question - Was there ever any legitimate reports from Ronaldo or his agent saying he wants out? Or anything credible? Or was it all paper talk? I usually dont believe most of the press but it seems this was legit for no other reason that no one refuted the claims., not United or Ronaldo. However I dont think there was anything legit saying he was going either
He may have, but since he, his agent, nor the club said anything, we will never know. Best to move on and enjoy the football now that the window is closed.You are right . Ronaldo never ever wanted to leave. He loves United and is a top red, giving his all for the team. Its all in his notebook and I am certain we will have the privilege of the king tell us how it really went very soon.
So what if he did want to leave though? It seems like some having taken it as a slight that a player may want to go elsewhere as if it's an outrageous thought.You are right . Ronaldo never ever wanted to leave. He loves United and is a top red, giving his all for the team. Its all in his notebook and I am certain we will have the privilege of the king tell us how it really went very soon.
It’s a perfectly reasonable reaction to be annoyed at this situation. Don’t pretend like football is completely logical and devoid of emotion if someone with the historic club status of Ronaldo is reportedly considering Napoli to get out of the club I think anyone is well within their rights to be annoyed.So what if he did want to leave though? It seems like some having taken it as a slight that a player may want to go elsewhere as if it's an outrageous thought.
As long as a player isn't coming out publically who gives a feck. Even then we've just signed a player who kicked up a fuss so the club obviously don't care.
Let's criticise players for what they do on the pitch and actually say.
I don't think he is going to be a starter that often, to be honest. Not in the premier league, anyway. We'll have a lot of fixtures coming up, and he should be used for the Europa League group games as a rotation option. Although saying that, I think he may start tonight as we haven't got Antony available yet, and Martial is injured. Plus, If I had the option, I would start him in this game as opposed to the Arsenal one.I don't mind that he stayed but he needs to live with the fact that unless he increases his pressing work he won't be a starter for us. If we start him our whole pressing colapses and not even his occasional world class games are worth it to risk that. He isn't the first, nor will he be the last all time great who is made irrelevante because they couldn't adopt to the evolving tactics.
And before some Ronaldo fanboy screams at me again. The same goes for Messi, no pressing effort put in makes you a burden for the rest of the team in todays game, Messi doesn't press either so yeah, he is in the same boat imo.
Or Maguire's, or Shaw's, or Rashford's, or De Gea's, or Fred's, or Bruno's, or Martial's.You obviously don't read the mctominay threads
Well it's just that I don't get it. We all know our current state and that without CL he'd likely want to go, it was often discussed here. The reality hit and grown men seem upset at the thought.It’s a perfectly reasonable reaction to be annoyed at this situation. Don’t pretend like football is completely logical and devoid of emotion if someone with the historic club status of Ronaldo is reportedly considering Napoli to get out of the club I think anyone is well within their rights to be annoyed.
Rumours he or his agent could have squashed weeks ago.What own actions? So far he barely spoke and all we have is rumous and rumours.
Sounds like you bought into all of the media stories over the last few weeks and left frustrated because none of them came to fruitionRumours he or his agent could have squashed weeks ago.
I honestly can’t believe people are suggesting this has all been made up and he’s never wanted to leave.
Why would they club have to come out and reiterate his not for sale all whilst no team is even bidding for him.
He arrives back to pre season after weeks away with his agent like that’s normal.
Ronaldo has been linked to clubs many times before in his career so why does he feel the need to hold a tell all interview after deadline day to address them?
The rumours I bought into were he was being offered around Europe to CL teams and they all respectfully declined. Is that not what’s happened?Sounds like you bought into all of the media stories over the last few weeks and left frustrated because none of them came to fruition
I just don't know, I'm not saying it's not true, I'm saying I have no idea. Is it all or mostly rumours? People are assuming everything is true and given the track record of the internet I'm cautious.Rumours he or his agent could have squashed weeks ago.
I honestly can’t believe people are suggesting this has all been made up and he’s never wanted to leave.
Why would they club have to come out and reiterate his not for sale all whilst no team is even bidding for him.
He arrives back to pre season after weeks away with his agent like that’s normal.
Ronaldo has been linked to clubs many times before in his career so why does he feel the need to hold a tell all interview after deadline day to address them?
No idea mate, I see alot of rumours about agents talking, I see club reps responding to these rumours. Nothing official, or any bids made, just talk. It's also why I've mostly avoided this thread because it's just people reacting to every piece of news. We won't know what really happened until they make a statement, just like FDJ.The rumours I bought into were he was being offered around Europe to CL teams and they all respectfully declined. Is that not what’s happened?
In that last scenario, would Ronaldo be happy to see the club and ETH publicly state he isn’t for sale and want him to stay but behind the scenes his been told different.I just don't know, I'm not saying it's not true, I'm saying I have no idea. Is it all or mostly rumours? People are assuming everything is true and given the track record of the internet I'm cautious.
Ronaldo lacked the pre-season but it's not like he went rogue, he asked the club for it and the club allowed. Why did he asked that period? Again I don't know.
Imagine now the following scenario: Man Utd says to Ronaldo that he's not part of the plan of the club and that this season he will be used mostly as a sub if he stays, but that he is free to search for a new club.
Is this why Ronaldo is searching for a club? I just made it up, now if I post this in the internet how many people will believe?
Rumours is too vague a term, it was Mendes trying to stimulate the market.No idea mate, I see alot of rumours about agents talking, I see club reps responding to these rumours. Nothing official, or any bids made, just talk. It's also why I've mostly avoided this thread because it's just people reacting to every piece of news. We won't know what really happened until they make a statement, just like FDJ.
CR = Committed RedYou are right . Ronaldo never ever wanted to leave. He loves United and is a top red, giving his all for the team. Its all in his notebook and I am certain we will have the privilege of the king tell us how it really went very soon.