Ronaldo just got lucky that he’s named Ronaldo. He borrowed much of his fame from Brazilian Ronaldo in many places where people don’t actially watch football.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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I've reread that second sentence about 8 times and still can't work it out. You mean Christiano Ronaldo the footballer appeals to people in countries where they don't actually watch football because he shares the same name as a footballer they also never watched?
No, he plays great for 6 months and 3 months where he’s clearly better than anyone else on the planet. Which is why the months where you say he’s playing badly are when he’s still pretty much scoring one goal per game and being his team’s best player.
Great, so nothing he does will actually be a big achievement since Juve were 100% going to do it anyway... despite them winning the league by small margins in the past 2 years and not winning the CL by scrapping past the likes of Tottenham.
In 2015 they were the team of Pirlo, Vidal and Pogba when they got to the CL final. In 2016 they got knocked out in the round of 16, in 2017 they got to the final, knocked Barcelona out which these days isn’t that big of an accomplishment and then Monaco in the semis in what was a fairly easy draw, in 2018 they went out in the quarters.
How long until Juve has a better squad than Madrid and suddenly the likes of Isco and Kroos start getting judged on their actual performances? It’s evolving, he’s getting his achievements downplayed before they even happen. I bet by the end of next season Madrid having the best midfield in the world will suddenly not be true anymore and the likes of De Sciglio, Emre Can and Douglas Costa will be better than Carvajal, Casemiro and Bale now that these guys don’t have Ronaldo to hide behind. What’s funny is that the same people already talking down whatever he accomplishes in Italy were the same people downplaying everything he did because he was playing in the perfect environment for him in Madrid... he changed environment and the goalposts moved.
That curry has gone to your head,
I had definitely had a few drinks when I posted that.The name Ronaldo has been a household name for many many years. People have been hearing about how great ‘Ronaldo’ is since the 90s. I had to even explain to my dad that they are different players.
Napoli fans are hilarious, CR7 themed toilet paper
Anyone see the Juve documentary on Netflix? I thought it was kinda boring, but I bet they're wishing they'd filmed a year later.
It’s CL or bust for a Juve that’s it. Adding Ronaldo should give them a much bigger leg up to retain the league, it doesn’t move the needle at all. The same applies to Barcelona.
This is a very disingenuous argument and I think you've taken people downplaying Ronaldo and gone to the opposite extreme.
Juve have won what, the last 8 league titles in a row? They've reached 2 of the past 4 CL finals and were knocked out by Real (the winner) in one of the other 2 seasons.
They're not some small team on the European stage, only Real and Barcelona have done better than them in Europe in the past 4 years and there's been no other team as dominant in their league recently other than Bayern.
Doesn't mean Ronaldo won't kick them up a level, he clearly will but let's not downplay Juventus either.
My point is that before getting Ronaldo they’d have been weaker than in any of the past 4 years. Even with Ronaldo I’d argue they’re not as good as in 2014/15 with Pirlo, Vidal and Pogba in midfield. They’re not the same team as they were then, at all. People say Ronaldo’s joining a team that made the CL final twice in the past 4 years when the team was completely different 3 years ago than it is now. Even then, in the past 4 years they have clearly overachieved. They might have been the third best team in Europe results wise but they have not been the third best team in Europe and they most definitely aren’t the third best team in Europe now.
Juve are clear favourites to win the league but if they hadn’t signed Ronaldo everyone would be giving Napoli, Inter and Roma a very good chance of ending the streak since the gap has clearly been closing and these clubs have done pretty well in the transfer market. In the CL there are quite a few teams who have a better squad. Their goal is the CL which is a very tough competition to win meaning it’s much more likely to not happen than otherwise, if there’s 0 credit attached to how they do domestically then this is going to end up as a big failure.
If Juve had gone for Messi instead, yes, Dybala would be benched for certain
I wouldn't, but i've heard the name.
I think i saw that cringey movie with him and bugs bunny, or something like that, maaaany years ago, but i still don't remember his face.
I think Juventus starts as favorite for the CL now. They've lost to Madrid the last 2 seasons and now have gotten their best players I think their massive investment in him is a reflection of that.
In hindsight, considering we never actually rechannelled the funds for a right winger...
It’s CL or bust
Space Jam is a classic of modern cinema you philistine
Anyway, Ronaldo. I agree that Juventus have to win the CL while he’s there to make it worthwhile. They were already winning Serie A anyway.
Or, you know, they can win the league and have another very good season.
Neymar and Mbappe at PSG won’t be a bust even if they don’t win the CL, Lewandowski wasn’t a bust at Bayern. It may not have seemed so in the past few years but winning the CL is very hard. Putting that kind of pressure on a player has never happened before.
This season Juve will need to adapt and their squad still has problems, midfield isn’t as good as the european elite, Scszesny is unproven at that level and Cancelo/De Sciglio are simply not good enough. I expect them to be more prepared next season, Ronaldo’s challenge will be keeping his level for as long as possible so they have enough time to shape the squad and get as many chances in the CL as possible with this core of players.
When is his first game? Hattrick incoming.
Yep. Waste of space. Saves all of his best performances for the biggest matches in the most pressure filled, tight games of the season.
He had one bad run of form before Xmas and now he only turns up 3 months of the year.
Insane, and it makes perfect sense to have your best player peak when the going gets tough.
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First competitive game is on the 18th, I think.
Absolute unit. Sorry
It's literally the remit that's given to all health, fitness and conditioning coaches by the manager at the start of the season.
The guy manages his fitness like no other player I've ever known. He must have a ridiculous level of self discipline. We've all heard the stories but to manage his fitness to peak for that end of season run in, routinely... It's a hell of a thing.
He's the only example of a human being where his Narcissism is somehow a virtue.
He and Dybala have been inseparable in training sessions. If they connect on the field it will be curtains for anyone in the CL.
Side note: His definition is like nothing I've seen in a footballer. He will literally play till he's 40.
Am I right in thinking that Juve had put a deal in for him around the time we played Sporting in "that" friendly? A few days later, he was a Utd player.
Has there ever been a transfer longer in the making? Just the 16 years! Looking forward to seeing him this season.
Has there ever been a transfer longer in the making? Just the 16 years! Looking forward to seeing him this season.
Already asserted his dominance by uppercutting Dybala.
Bet they had a nice, big chat about Messi. No wonder they get along.
Probably explains why Barca destroyed them in the league.
Don't wanna imagine the days without him and Messi .
Football will not be the same .
Football will not be the same .
He's obviously in phenomenal shape, but there are other examples of this. It takes some beating to be better conditioned that Clarence Seedorf. That man is as close to a cyborg as I think you'll get. This is him at 40. fecking 40...
Urgh, this muscular arm though.
Could indeed become an absolutely lethal partnership.
I know right? How will they possibly live with those 3 consecutive Champions League medals.
Not getting him for 100m will go down as another major strategic mistake on our part ala Pep not replacing SAF.
Yeah he was so good in the semi finals and final of CL last season along with the 2014 and 2016 final.
He’s a great player but he’s had plenty of crap games in big moments as well.
I absolutely love him
Sensible post in a cesspool of cringey one liner posts in here...
Yes, we had agreement with him.
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