I just logged onto the caf and at the same time there wa an ad on TV for sixpad with CR7 in it.
It's a feckin' omen, I tell you.
It's a feckin' omen, I tell you.
Cristiano Ronaldo | Transfer Speculation
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Does feel as if our transfer activity is on pause. Haven't heard any rumours from us in a while outside of this Ronaldo situation.
So it begins.
Really, you think so? We should talk again in September when he is banging in the goals and the discussion for GOAT begin!
Is this a Ronaldo vs Rooney six pack comparison?Yeah, Right. Perhaps an omen for this –
Is that you?Yeah, Right. Perhaps an omen for this –
I've already expressed my opposition to bringing Ronaldo back, and won't repeat those comments. I can't help but feel, however, that we've been down this road before, including with Ronaldo. There's a very good chance we're being played. I don't think Madrid have any interest in selling Ronaldo, and at the end of the day I don't believe Ronaldo really wants to leave. From a sporting perspective, there's absolutely no reason for him to do so. Even from an economic perspective, there's really no upside to him departing. I don't pretend to know what's motivating Ronaldo's stance, but it's likely a combination of ego, power and money. I just don't see the benefit in getting lured down this same rabbit hole again. I wish the club would simply release a statement praising Ronaldo for being the club legend that he is, but declaring unequivocally that he isn't a transfer target at this time. It would help us in our current recruitment efforts and perhaps make players think twice before using the club to leverage their own personal ambitions. Enough is enough.
There is nothing in it for us, our name is thrown into the mix because it's an easy story and it inevitably gets a lot of clicks. Ronaldo's problem are political and financial, he is sad and disappointed in the club for not backing him and sure enough next week you have the club president organizing an interview backing him to the hilt and massaging his ego with that Di Stefano quote. Next up is a pay rise and I expect once the Confederation Cup is done, they'll get that sorted as well.
I just hope this drama is finished quickly so we can wrap up the Morata deal.
I just hope this drama is finished quickly so we can wrap up the Morata deal.
I think we should just buy Morata, enjoy his peak years, and compete with Madrid for MBappe.
Sounds like it. And the whole thing about not reaching out to talk to him because he doesn't want to disrupt the Portuguese team? When has Perez ever given a feck about disrupting other teams? He's an arsehole!
Still think that this is all just a big song and dance like always and Ronnie will just end up staying there.
As @carvajal said, most people don't know the whole situation with hacienda. All they know, from the outside looking in, is that he's accused of defrauding Hacienda for almost €15M, which is to say, he's being accused of defrauding the spanish citizens. And he's now throwing a fit because Big Bad Hacienda will not give him preferential treatment, and is pissed at the club for being unable to force Big Bad Hacienda to give him preferential treatment, and for being unable to control ALL medias to prevent them from breaking the story(which, if you've followed the whole saga since it first began last fall, is complete BS on his part)
People don't understand him, and they are angry at the way he's behaving
Worried he's leaving? Of course. Are they saying feck him? Of course. Will he get stick if he stays? Depends on how he stays, but he's unlikely to come out completely unscathed from all this. Would we prefer to replace him with Mbappé? Many would right now
Perez is free to write him a check out of his own pocket if he wants. Not with club money, and not with public money
No it's not. He's under accusation from Hacienda(Spanish Treasury) of committing tax fraud for nearly €15M
Flo has begun the club's public defence and backing of the player, which has expected is a lot of words to say the club believes in him & in his good faith, while also clarifying that it's still ultimately the player's problem, not the club's
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Forget Mbappe and get Dembele.
Agreed, demeble is the player we really should be targeting... Morata and Dembele would sort out our attack for a very long time.
Doesn't dembele dream of a particular team in Spain too?
He never said he wanted to leave before. This time is different.
It don't matter. After 6 years we can sell him and buy Ronaldo back
Ronaldo with a zimmer frame?It don't matter. After 6 years we can sell him and buy Ronaldo back
He's a little child who wants to quit after something happened he doesnt like. Once the mom dries his tears, all will be good again
The media jumps on any hot topic that sells. We don't hear much about other transfers because everyone knows United fans just want to hear about Ronaldo the most right now. Just look at how this thread exploded in 3 days.
This. I know as Utd fans we're ecstatic with the prospect of football's biggest star coming back to us, but I confess I'm bit disgusted by his attitude. I forgive his crap on the field, but I abhor tax evaders. It's always the middle class that ends up paying the taxes that build roads and hospitals, while the rich with their lawyers always find creative loopholes to evade them.
We are being used again and I just hope we don't ruin our chances of signing our original targets by humiliating ourselves chasing him and wasting another summer. It's been said before but he's the ex who suddenly makes contact when her nasty boyfriend is treating her bad. Soon as they show him the love and attention we will be left with our dicks swinging in the wind.
And subsequently forcing it to close down. Anyone destroying a Manchester institution like that doesn't deserve to come back. Feck him. Do not want.
This "saga" is immensely annoying. Everyone with a modicum of sense knows that the move is a non-starter. Worse still, we've been in a very similar place before. For those saying he's never before said he wants to leave, ermmm, point me towards any statement to this effect even this time. He's remained silent and even avoided the post-match presser and MoM presentation. He's always done this. Allowed the press to do the talking before coming out and saying he's delighted being with Real, United are his past and the rumours are all "press talk".
On our part, I just hope we're pushing on with our transfer business. I'd be amazed if Ed let this cloud his judgment, but one can never be too careful. We should push to land Morata, Perisic (yes, I know) and a CM (Fabinho?) before we end up having to press the panic button in late July...
On our part, I just hope we're pushing on with our transfer business. I'd be amazed if Ed let this cloud his judgment, but one can never be too careful. We should push to land Morata, Perisic (yes, I know) and a CM (Fabinho?) before we end up having to press the panic button in late July...
Woodward doesn't court players without the manager's consent. Jose will know the situation
That's true but we were 48 hours from concluding Morata over a week ago
I just don't like his overall antics, also now. People believe he alone would shoot us to title but forget that RM is by far the strongest team out there
It's still annoying me a bit how many people are forgetting about Jorge Mendes
You see articles - an from decent journalists - saying things like "United are approaching the Ronaldo deal with caution"
Why would they need to? If it's a scam, then it's a scam that would be masterminded by Mourinho's own agent! Mourinho could literally text him and ask if it's for real. It would take 5 minutes tops for United to find out
You see articles - an from decent journalists - saying things like "United are approaching the Ronaldo deal with caution"
Why would they need to? If it's a scam, then it's a scam that would be masterminded by Mourinho's own agent! Mourinho could literally text him and ask if it's for real. It would take 5 minutes tops for United to find out
Says who?
We can't possibly know that.
The clearest I've seen of that was mid/late last week when his agent revealed we do have an offer for him and then of his agent's meeting with Real to discuss it. Hard to say it would take 48 hours or how ever long for both clubs to work out a deal. The timeframe is likely pure media speculation.
Umm... That's not exactly how it works. The agent would be worthless if he didn't look out for each client's interests in isolation. If Ronaldo felt that Mendes was compromising his own position / negotiations even a bit, he'd sack him. And if Jose knew the truth and United backed off, Real would hold the whip hand. A bit like lawyers and the confidentiality clauses. So, if Mendes feels it's in his best interests to keep Jose in the dark for now, he'll do so. Remember, he doesn't need to lie; just avoid a direct answer. Think it over. The only way for Mendes to tell Jose the truth and still manage the charade with Real would be for Jose to either willingly lie to Ed and get him to continue to "play the game" or for Ed to be in on the game and still put up a front that convinces Real that it's all for real. Neither is even remotely plausible given what is at stake for all parties. Therefore, Mendes will avoid Jose knowing...
You could of course, and I do, wonder about the whole conflict of interest angle, but the game seems to overlook that with ease. Mendes and Raiola manage a host of players and managers. You have to wonder how its conceivable that they ethically handle all cases and totally avoid a selfish motive to influence actions...or play favourites at times.
I agree with @LawCharltonBest on this one.
There is no way that Mendes would string Jose along, risking making him / us look foolish, so we either know it's all bollocks, or we know there is a chance to sign him.
It depends how you define "stringing Jose along." Its not like its a complete fiction. Its not like its a complete bluff and Ronaldo has absolutely no intention of moving whatsoever. Im sure he is using his leverage, thinking: "Worst case scenario I end up back at United which would be fine. Best case Madrid pay off my tax bill for me and I stay."
Mendes doesnt even need to lie to Jose, the ball isnt in his court. He can honestly say to Mourinho, "Ronaldo is up for joining you but he will stay if Real do X, Y and Z. We'll see what they do."
Mendes doesnt even need to lie to Jose, the ball isnt in his court. He can honestly say to Mourinho, "Ronaldo is up for joining you but he will stay if Real do X, Y and Z. We'll see what they do."
That's a fair point.
He doesn't need to "string him along". Just says, for example, "Yeah, he's really peeved and annoyed and is genuinely looking for a move if this isn't sorted".
Given that Flo has now spoken in defense of Ronaldo, I guessing he'll soon have spoken with Ronaldo and gotten a clearer picture of what exactly he/Madrid has to say in order to placate Ronaldo. Then, Madrid will put out a statement saying Ronaldo has their full support and that he's not the kind of person who would knowingly defraud the tax authorities. Then Cristiano will talk about how tough it is to be labeled a criminal, and how much it helped to have his clubs support. Then RAWK will laugh at us failing to sign him and predict Liverpool to do the double next season, and all will be back to normal.
Hmm I just can't see it.
I can't see Mendes going along with talking about Ronaldos demands with Jose, telling him it's possible he'll arrive etc all the while knowing that Ronaldo actually has no real intention of leaving.
If he did that, Mourinho would realise in the end what was happening. Don't forget that Mourinho is one of Mendes' biggest meal tickets. I don't think he'd risk messing that up and his relations with United up for Ronaldo.
Look at it from Mendes eyes. In 5 years time, Ronaldos value to Mendes will be low. Whereas he can rake it in from Mourinho and United for almost the rest of his life.
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