With the number of players our fans want sold till date (Blind, Lingard, Darmian, Mata, Mhikitaryan, Herrera, Lindelof, Young, Fellaini, etc) I wonder how much money we need to simply replace these guys.
Daley Blind fears Manchester United could sell him in the summer
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Think Blind is a fantastic player would love to keep him
If i was a manager at another club i would be very interested in him
If i was a manager at another club i would be very interested in him
Blind, Darmian, Mikhitaryan, Fellaini, Lingard should make way for better players as soon as January if possible...
I'll be surprised if he left, hes the type of player Jose likes to have around the club.
I think it should be the other way round. I think Blind is a useful backup player and is certainly useful to stick around, just like last season and the season before. But if Blind wants regular games or another club submit a reasonable offer, then he can go (but not he should go)
From memory, he started almost every game at CB at the beginning of Mourinho’s time here, but fell out of the side after a few iffy performances?
But on your general point, I agree that he made an impression at CB under LVG, but I don’t think he’s good enough to do so in a better side and, more importantly, I don’t think he’s suited to playing there in a Mourinho side.
There was no iffy performances. Left back yes but none at CB. Dropped instantly as soon as other defenders were fit. No chance to prove himself like countless defenders get.
I find the size argument a bit weird. Keane was not tall and neither was for example xavi. So I don't get this fascination with size.
Taller than azpilicueta at CB & whilst the latter is definitely a better player because he has other attributes such as speed - blind has some underrated attributes which means his lack of height is hardly ever countered. If José was a manager who was going to be here past this season or the next then I'd say sell Blind - but the fact is José isn't staying here for more than 3 years & definitely isn't finding the job particularly easy in his second season where he normally does really well.
Fact is you take the traditional top 6; we are the only team in there that a player of blinds technical quality would not be utilised & that because of José very particular type of playing football. If we sell him just to replace the manager in a year's time - say who happens to believe in the 352 formation; yet deems playing a sweeper like smalling is overly defensive in the middle of the back line & instead needs an attacking CB - selling Blind would be an abysmal mistake = Blind with protection around him playing marginally off the 2 CB's would be deadly if we were to revert back to football on the ground again.
We do not need him
Jose does don't need him - doesn't mean united don't need him.
Seems I've forgot quite a bit of last season! You and @MadMike were right - he played quite a bit at CB last year. 17 appearances to be exact. I honestly don't remember him playing there bar the final against Ajax. Thinking back, I do remember a few other times but 17 was a lot more than I would have guessed.
I don't necessarily agree, but I can definitely see why probably most think he isn't suited to play as a CB in a José team or just isn't good enough in general due to his limitations. I know I said I'd forgot about him playing as a CB for the most part of last season, but I don't remember ever thinking he's played poorly there. Still, I can see why he doesn't play there now with all our other CBs doing well, but when we play with 3 at the back I do think he could excel there.
Classic example of a player whose versatility has harmed his career at the top level as he's never been allowed to nail down a particular position.
Don't think he suits us, really. He's good at what he does and could be a very good player for a different team. Wonder what price we'd get for him. North of 20m would be decent.
Feel the same with Fellaini (who could be a good player for the right sort of team, like he was pre-United).
Feel the same with Fellaini (who could be a good player for the right sort of team, like he was pre-United).
Fellaini is perfect for United currently. Do you not see Jose consistently talking about not wanting fellaini to leave? He embodies half of our Plan A and 100% of our plan B.
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That's not because he is perfect for us, it's because we lack options and balance. I take Jose's recent quotes on his contract/transfer situation as if he'd rather he stayed, but would understand if the board doesn't want to grant a star-player contract and he won't get any assurances about game time. Fellaini could theoretically have a last big payday for a decent club where he plays every game.
If we were to sign either a box to box midfielder (with footballing abilities, no disrespect to Fellaini's skillset) or a top quality ball-winner, Fellaini's right down that pecking order.
Agree with this, way to slow and weak to play a defensive midfielder. He would get bullied every other game.
He will not play as a C.B, and he is not a L.W so I think maybe he just a backup and that what he should accept if not then good luck to him with another club.
Mou said something about lvg selling player he wouldn't sell & buying player who he wouldn't buy.
I guess blind is the later.
Jose likes specialist , he ain't specialist
I guess blind is the later.
Jose likes specialist , he ain't specialist
If that's his personality, to cry to his agent when he isn't picked as a starter, it's best he leaves and quickly. We need players ready to fight for their spot not presume they are owed anything. If that story is half true I hope he's sold in january.
I hope the story is true because I don't want him playing for us either way.
Sounds ruthless but in fact? Very needed. I am tired of seeing so much avarage names put on this glorified red shirt. The number of quantity is now too damn high, contradition to our squad quality. Not all above but I would like to end 2018 summer transfer window up getting rid of some of them, keep an acceptable plan B/back-up/bench warmers just enough for rotation purpose in small competitions.
It is modern football you know, something must be what it needs to be. Galacticos 2.0 with 3 Champions League trophies wouldn't have existed if Perez had chosen to keep Calderon's Holland package. Van Gol must be sacrificed for promising talent Ronaldo, Ronaldinho must leave Barcelona because of Messi's progression. In the end, we are all coming to the point when letting the past go and moving forward for better new ones are inevitable
If we want to get on the same level as City, never mind the likes of PSG, Barcelona and Real, we need to be ruthless and replace the mediocrity. Unfortunately I have little faith in us buying the right players if we were to sell all those.
I think he is an able stand-in for the DM position, but hey ho, what do I know?
Get 15-20 mill for him and put it towards the LWB/LB
Think he's a decent backup to have in a number of positions.
Certainly wouldn't look to offload him on the cheap.
Certainly wouldn't look to offload him on the cheap.
Reckon we will have a fair few suitors for him due to the emergence of a three back line in the PL. He would be good on the left side there for a fair few clubs.
He would do better in Serie A or La Liga though, but I hope we get PL interest due to the prices involved when PL clubs sell players to each other.
He would do better in Serie A or La Liga though, but I hope we get PL interest due to the prices involved when PL clubs sell players to each other.
Looked so sad with his hood up today 
He was sulking much on the bench just now. Hope he plays on Tuesday and cheers up a little
Looked so sad with his hood up today
Hope he sulks his way to Italy! Considering his pathetic performances, he's got no right to be self-entitled.
Sam Johnstone's contract has a one year option on it, as does James Wilson's. Mata the same. Tuanzebe's deal is up to 2020 again with a plus one year option. Andreas Pereira adjusted his contract prior to joining Valencia, now 2019 + 1. Bailly's contract has a 2 year option on it. Phil Jones has a one year option on his most recent deal.
Whether Darmian and Blind leave depends on if we get an offer for them, but we won't make much out of the sales of Darmian, Blind, Shaw and Wilson.
I think Mata is likely to leave as well and I think we'll make up to four incomings: LB (probably Rose), AM (probably Ozil), CM (Carrick/Fellaini replacement with McTominay and Pereira being cover) and maybe an RB. I can see the first three happening but not sure we'll see an RB coming in as we've not been linked with anyone.
Not sure about Smalling but in recent years United have tended to include one year options on deals of 4 years or less. Smalling signed a 4 year deal so I'd expect it to have a one year option though the official announcement doesn't mention an option.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...igns-new-contract-with-manchester-united.aspx
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...on-signs-new-deal-with-manchester-united.aspx
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...a-contract-extension-at-united-confirmed.aspx
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...-of-defender-eric-bailly-from-villarreal.aspx
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2015/Jun/phil-jones-signs-new-contract.aspx
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It would hardly be a surprise if Blind is one of the players that leaves this summer. I expected Shaw, Carrick and Mata to leave, then one of Darmian or Blind, and perhaps Fellaini or Mkhitaryan. Zlatan and Smalling too early to tell. The current squad is very big and we would need to create space if we want to invest in Pereira and TFM.
There comes a point where you can't keep signing players on huge wages without getting rid of a few. For a while we were ok because of new TV deals and big increases in Shirt sponsorship.
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There's no place in the squad for him really. He's a mediocre defender and a poor left back. The only time he'll ever be of any use is against weak teams in the league cup. Should sell him and Shaw and bring in a proper LB.
Rubbish, Daley comes to play.
Thanks. I got the contract info from transfermarkt. Weird that some didn't have the one year options on.
Memory is a bit hazy but wasnt Blind playing CDM for Holland under LvG when we signed him?
No. He played WC2014 as a left back in 3-5-2 formation. Remember RVP stunning goal against Spain, it came from a cross from Blind from the left flank.
He played as a CDM for Ajax though.
Likewise, when he first came I think he played that position and off memory, he did a good job of it as well and used the ball well.
He's been pushed about a lot, centre back, full back, wing back, midfield, corners, free kicks, penalties, he just steps up and does it. You always need players like that in your squad, problem is, when he's playing as a defender he just looks shaky.
Cheers, couldnt remember for the life of me.
Probably add Johnstone, Fellaini and Wilson to that and that’ll probably be right in our outgoings in the summer although I’d keep Mata just as a squad player.
I like Blind and think he’s useful as a back up centre back or left back but he clearly wants regular football, we’re stocked with centre backs and left back is a position I’d expect us to really prioritise in the summer so where Blind fits is hard to see.