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Darwin Núñez | Liverpool player | Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shish
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Remember when we had Falcao and you just knew it wasn’t going to work? Remember Forlan, when you just knew? Remember Dong?
Then remember Ruud? Rooney? Van Persie? Berbatov?
I can tell you comfortably where Nunez will be now and in due time.
Then remember Ruud? Rooney? Van Persie? Berbatov?
I can tell you comfortably where Nunez will be now and in due time.
We well and truly dodged a bullet with him.
He looks like he would be a really good striker for a mid table club where he can be a nuisance and get 15 goals a season... but at a top club, strikers need to be more reliable.. even if he scores a decent number of goals, a striker as inconsistent in his finishing as him wouldnt be a starter at a top club..
Not sure if he is going through a really rough patch or he is this erratic all the time.. if its the latter, he isnt what Liverpool need.
Not sure if he is going through a really rough patch or he is this erratic all the time.. if its the latter, he isnt what Liverpool need.
I still think he's really good.
He gets lots of chances.Based on what?
Just to add some meat to the bones of my theory that his issues run much deeper than poor finishing.
Against Leicester his pass completion was 56%.
Pretty terrible, right?
Against Villa it was…
wait for it…
30%
Against Leicester his pass completion was 56%.
Pretty terrible, right?
Against Villa it was…
wait for it…
30%
What? He has to score them to come good though, and that's something he literally cannot do.He got MOTM v Villa with 4 completed passes to his name!Just to add some meat to the bones of my theory that his issues run much deeper than poor finishing. Against Leicester his pass completion was 56%. Pretty terrible, right? Against Villa it was… wait for it… 30%
He’s awful.
He will turn that corner sooner or later. His movement and physical attributes are brilliant. He will be a great goalscorer when it clicks for him.
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That's the thing though, going into today he had 5 goals and 2 assists in 781 league minutes, 3 goals and 1 assist in 280 CL minutes. Which is good.
It might be the rate of return changes as he gets more minutes but as it stands the fact that he has been returning at a good rate despite his sometimes glaring misses is going to shape the conversation around him.
One analogy we can use is fish. When you put a new fish into an existing tank, you dont put it straight away. You float the plastic bag inside until the fish gets acclimated to the tank water then you let it out slowly. Darwin Nunez is a tank and Liverpool is the fish. They. Are. Not. Ready for such greatness.
He’s so bad at finishing it’s hilarious
Wow, that’s shocking. His average on FBref over the last 365 days (so a big bulk of this is Benfica stats) has him at 60.6% per 90, which puts him in the bottom 15th percentile.Just to add some meat to the bones of my theory that his issues run much deeper than poor finishing.
Against Leicester his pass completion was 56%.
Pretty terrible, right?
Against Villa it was…
wait for it…
30%
No he won't not in this league, no way. He runs down blind alleys, he can't strike a ball cleanly, he has zero composure in front of goal. The only time he scores its because it's come off him or he's hit it so early not even he was expecting it to go in, let alone the keeper.
Doing lots of running doesn't put the ball in the back of the net.
But but but he's got frightening pace
But he lacks the basic attribute of controlling the ball. He stood out like a sore thumb for that in the Portuguese league too.
This is such a myth. It's usually brilliance from other players that get him those chances.
He can clearly finish, just look at the way he took that goal that was disallowed. He's just in his own head at the moment. When he gets some confidence he'll bang them in.
The stats don't mean that much to me to be honest. He plays at the top end of the pitch and Liverpool create chances so he's always going to have numbers that appear okay. However you've only got to watch him to see that there isn't a quality football, let alone CF, in him.
Is he all of the sudden going to have a bag of finishing techniques to go to? Because currently he has none, he just sort of shoots it at the goal (poorly the majority of the time mind you) and hopes it finds it's way in.
Stop getting so sucked into a players physical attributes. This is like people that rate Adama Traore because he's really fast and strong so he's "dangerous"
You don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt moving to a completely new league/country and with such a massive fee? The issue is confidence and it doesn't help him playing in a really poor side at the moment.
I'd like to be wrong of course.
get off his back. call me old fashioned but i don’t care how many passes he makes. he’s there to score goals.Just to add some meat to the bones of my theory that his issues run much deeper than poor finishing.
Against Leicester his pass completion was 56%.
Pretty terrible, right?
Against Villa it was…
wait for it…
30%
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I can't find it but someone edited that dude who was trying to hold the moon with Nunez face. Looked flawlessExactly, it's like someone who would hammer the numbers from our strikers in some past seasons when in reality we'd hardly create for them so it's difficult to have good numbers anyways. Put Suarez from his Liverpool days in this side and he'd be close to Haaland numbers and people would talk about how great Liverpool are.
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No, I think it only get's worse for him from here.
No one in that side is getting younger, their best players look to be the wrong side of 30 now. The chances being created for him are going to start coming less and less and the one's he gets he will consistently miss.
€100m.
Very nice.
Very nice.
You're obviously right, everyone is just acting hyper because he is hilarious to watch and keeps missing.
How exactly does it get worse for him?
Are we sure he's a striker?
Less chances created by others for him, which will highlight his misses more, despite all his running around.
Whilst he’s a meme at the moment, I think he’ll end up to be a decent player. Not worth the money paid for him and not scoring ridiculous quantities previously contributed by Salah/Mane/Firmino.
Not to mention this isn't some player with a huge history of being a great finisher that all of the sudden is struggling. Benfica fans even admit that his golden finishing season there last year was a complete anomaly that they didn't understand.
Yep, there's some guy who's Uruguayan on Twitter who hates him, says he's ruining their national team with his shitness.
Well done lad keep it up.
That's not something he controls as an individual though. For him it can't really get much worse, even still he is showing glimpses of quality.
He will come good once he finds his feet, no pun intended.
should have been brought in when they still had Mane and been allowed time to adapt. He is simply not the attacker to come in and immediately contribute that they need right now. They'd be better off playing Firmino over him.