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Surely not? He botched a brilliant chance to kill the game then handed Rashford the equaliser almost immediately afterCaused Varane some problems today with his physicality. Thought he played well.
Surely not? He botched a brilliant chance to kill the game then handed Rashford the equaliser almost immediately afterCaused Varane some problems today with his physicality. Thought he played well.
Glad we didn’t sign him. Didn’t look good based on the clips, turned out to be mediocre.Got two assists today (plus 1 for Utd).
Gakpo is the real problem for Liverpool, he's atrocious.
Nar, he’s thought about it before but convinced himself to stay, you can say he’s messed up but they are looking good in Europe and are top of the league.I said it before and I’ll say it again. Klopp is leaving because he has messed up the rebuild.
@Kostov and @OverratedOpinion were waxing lyrical about Gakpo back in Summer 2023, found myself in a few bizarre debates arguing Garnacho was a far better talent and prospect whilst they argued Gakpo would make us a much better team.Got two assists today (plus 1 for Utd).
Gakpo is the real problem for Liverpool, he's atrocious.
Loco, the best mid in this game for them (and amongst the best in general) and in the season is Macca. My fanboyism is as clear as your agenda against the Ginger one.I said it before and I’ll say it again. Klopp is leaving because he has messed up the rebuild.
Nunez, Gakpo, Diaz and a forever injured Jota is way off peak Salah/Mane/Firmino.
Their best midfielder this season is a 31 year old who has zero appearances in the CL. They were outplayed by an 18 year old with no partner today.
Can’t keep any CB fit to pair with an aging van Dijk and Robertson has declined massively.
He is squeezing every bit of juice and energy out of them but the quality just isn’t the same. It says a lot when Nunez is probably the best attacker they have post-Salah.
It's going to be great, can't wait.Liverpool fans are in for a rude awakening, similar to the one we got after Fergie.
You say all of that and yet they could genuinely have won four trophies this season if they'd have beaten us yesterday.I said it before and I’ll say it again. Klopp is leaving because he has messed up the rebuild.
Nunez, Gakpo, Diaz and a forever injured Jota is way off peak Salah/Mane/Firmino.
Their best midfielder this season is a 31 year old who has zero appearances in the CL. They were outplayed by an 18 year old with no partner today.
Can’t keep any CB fit to pair with an aging van Dijk and Robertson has declined massively.
He is squeezing every bit of juice and energy out of them but the quality just isn’t the same. It says a lot when Nunez is probably the best attacker they have post-Salah.
Yes, the amount of cope is next level.You say all of that and yet they could genuinely have won four trophies this season if they'd have beaten us yesterday.
It's not exactly post Fergie levels of messing up a rebuild is it.
They haven't had the "post" period yet. That's next year.You say all of that and yet they could genuinely have won four trophies this season if they'd have beaten us yesterday.
It's not exactly post Fergie levels of messing up a rebuild is it.
We were debating Garnacho vs Gakpo last summer? I'd take Gakpo over Antony that is for sure, but Garnacho? Strange debate if it ever happened.@Kostov and @OverratedOpinion were waxing lyrical about Gakpo back in Summer 2023, found myself in a few bizarre debates arguing Garnacho was a far better talent and prospect whilst they argued Gakpo would make us a much better team.
Always looked incredibly average to me, someone who should be playing for the likes of Fulham.
Are you happy with the win?Yes, the amount of cope is next level.
Overrated opinion argued Gakpo > Garnacho, you just argued that we massively missed out on Gakpo and that he would’ve been the difference between a title challenge and a top 4 challenge.We were debating Garnacho vs Gakpo last summer? I'd take Gakpo over Antony that is for sure, but Garnacho? Strange debate if it ever happened.
Considering that we had to resort to loaning Weghorst, I do think that getting Gakpo in January would have improved us. Title challenge from this point looking it back, I was in absolute cookoo land.Overrated opinion argued Gakpo > Garnacho, you just argued that we massively missed out on Gakpo and that he would’ve been the difference between a title challenge and a top 4 challenge.
He knows that you can’t keep up those levels, especially with inferior players. Running them into the ground will only end one way.You say all of that and yet they could genuinely have won four trophies this season if they'd have beaten us yesterday.
It's not exactly post Fergie levels of messing up a rebuild is it.
They aren't comparable though. Totally different players types. Darwin has a lot more endproduct in him and brings chaos to compensate for his flaws in playmaking, close control and distributing.As soon as he started at Liverpool you knew he was never going to reach Firmino's level. Decent player but aside from being quick there's nothing elite about him.
Disagree with this. Some fans are too caught up on goals/assists instead of the overall package. Firmino was a more well rounded player in his prime.Nunez has been one of the best attackers in England this year. The guy has 31 goal involvements (one every 79 minutes) across all competitions and is a huge pain in the ass to play against with his physicality and constant running. He's about as good as Firmino's top level already and has room to go higher at 24. Where the rebuild hasn't gone well is the rest of the attack, as Gakpo is poor, Diaz is always injured and isn't a reliable scorer, and Jota is a great scorer but can't stay healthy and doesn't have the all around game of either Mane or Salah even when fit.
People are so attached to the idea of Nunez as a donkey or a bust but that's just not reality at this point. Unfortunately he's a really really good player and I can only hope Barcelona or Real Madrid come calling in the next couple years with their distinct attractiveness to South Americans (he'd actually be a great foil for Mbappe/Vini, willing to put in the hard yards but also capable of scoring and setting them up).
They've downgraded from Mane - Firminho - SalahDon't think he's anywhere near good enough to lead Liverpool in the post Salah era.
He'll score 10-15 in a season purely for getting into decent positions in the box but his overall play is far far too erratic in the key games. Not just the bad pass for 3-3 but he's caught offside constantly which kills plenty of attacks.
People underestimating what a unique player Salah will be to replace as Gakpo is a very average player indeed and Diaz is exciting but has his days when he takes far too many touches on the ball and attacks fizzle out.
Think they drop down a few places in the league purely on no more Salah.
Firmino was a much better player technically and more well rounded in his combination play.Disagree with this. Some fans are too caught up on goals/assists instead of the overall package. Firmino was a more well rounded player in his prime.
He's not worth what they paid for him. He's way too erratic. He's also a bit of flat track bully. A lot of his goals have come against the lower half teams and weaker Europa League opposition.
He actually reminds me of Bruno Fernandes. Both put up good numbers, yet still have deficiencies in their game that fans overlook.
A 52% pass completion and duel success of 37.5% vs United yesterday. That's very poor.
I wouldn't want to mark him, as he will keep you honest. He works hard and makes good runs off the ball. But is limited.
Thsi feels like you're just looking at his stats without looking at his actual contribution depending on the games and competition. I feel he definitely looks like his donkey-self when faced with just slightly harder opposition.Nunez has been one of the best attackers in England this year. The guy has 31 goal involvements (one every 79 minutes) across all competitions and is a huge pain in the ass to play against with his physicality and constant running. He's about as good as Firmino's top level already and has room to go higher at 24. Where the rebuild hasn't gone well is the rest of the attack, as Gakpo is poor, Diaz is always injured and isn't a reliable scorer, and Jota is a great scorer but can't stay healthy and doesn't have the all around game of either Mane or Salah even when fit.
People are so attached to the idea of Nunez as a donkey or a bust but that's just not reality at this point. Unfortunately he's a really really good player and I can only hope Barcelona or Real Madrid come calling in the next couple years with their distinct attractiveness to South Americans (he'd actually be a great foil for Mbappe/Vini, willing to put in the hard yards but also capable of scoring and setting them up).
Now, to downgrade on KloppThey've downgraded from Mane - Firminho - Salah
End product? He's a fairly shite finisher and the chaos he brings is for both sides.They aren't comparable though. Totally different players types. Darwin has a lot more endproduct in him and brings chaos to compensate for his flaws in playmaking, close control and distributing.
I think different sites have different criteria for assists, but I've never understood how a goal from a rebound/shot parry could be assisted by the player who shot first. For me, an assist must have an element of intentionality from the assister, and therefore shooting at goal automatically excludes the possibility of it being an assist.Is everyone counting onanas palm save straight to Salah as part of Nunez’s 2 assists?
I agree he's not bad, but Real? He wouldn't get anywhere near their team.Nunez has been one of the best attackers in England this year. The guy has 31 goal involvements (one every 79 minutes) across all competitions and is a huge pain in the ass to play against with his physicality and constant running. He's about as good as Firmino's top level already and has room to go higher at 24. Where the rebuild hasn't gone well is the rest of the attack, as Gakpo is poor, Diaz is always injured and isn't a reliable scorer, and Jota is a great scorer but can't stay healthy and doesn't have the all around game of either Mane or Salah even when fit.
People are so attached to the idea of Nunez as a donkey or a bust but that's just not reality at this point. Unfortunately he's a really really good player and I can only hope Barcelona or Real Madrid come calling in the next couple years with their distinct attractiveness to South Americans (he'd actually be a great foil for Mbappe/Vini, willing to put in the hard yards but also capable of scoring and setting them up).
I mean, they signed Faubert, so anything is possible, but it seems extremely unlikelyI agree he's not bad, but Real? He wouldn't get anywhere near their team.
Yeah agreed with all that. I know fantasy football counts those rebounded shots as an assist now (makes zero sense!) but i wouldn't really consider that "an assist". Oh well, i was just trying to remember where these 2 assists came from, and then realised it must be the shot for Salah's goal and the pass to MC...I think different sites have different criteria for assists, but I've never understood how a goal from a rebound/shot parry could be assisted by the player who shot first. For me, an assist must have an element of intentionality from the assister, and therefore shooting at goal automatically excludes the possibility of it being an assist.
Good old Graversen as wellI mean, they signed Faubert, so anything is possible, but it seems extremely unlikely![]()