It's both. An ignorant or racist opinion is still an opinion.
Suggesting this forum as a whole has an opinion on anything is also pretty ignorant. It's a forum made up of 1000s of people, each with their own views.
David Beckham reportedly agrees 150M deal to become ambassador for Qatar World Cup
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Suggesting this forum as a whole has an opinion on anything is also pretty ignorant. It's a forum made up of 1000s of people, each with their own views.
I can understand people saying they'd take the money, everyone will have different opinions and we all differ on what motivates us and what our stances are.
What I can't understand and what I find depressing is this kind of comment.
Yeah, but for some reason you quoted the poster who doesn't have racist but very objective view of things.
Fair play to Beckham. But 150M is crazy, why are they offering him so much money? Surely they could use some of that money for advertising.
Even if they wanted him badly, it's not like they had competition for him. Why not start with 50M or something
Even if they wanted him badly, it's not like they had competition for him. Why not start with 50M or something
Feck off, that's life changing money. I'm absolutely against the Qatar regime and everything they've done to get this World Cup in the first place, but it's going to happen anyway so Beck's might as well get £150m out of it and say to the press "yeah, it's going to be alright."We had a poll before asking whether people would prefer Saudi ownership or the Glazers and the Glazers won by 60%+. And that's if those were our only two choices, with other options presumably diluting support for a Saudi takeover even further.
So any argument based on the idea that the caf was crying out for Saudi ownership is weird.
So any argument based on the idea that the caf was crying out for Saudi ownership is weird.
They called out hypocracy without giving any examples whatsover.
If poster A says something and then poster B says something which contradicts that, it's not hypocracy, it's two people having different views.
Fair play to him.
A bit disappointed in our Becks if true.
And am I the only one who doesn't care about WC being held in Qatar?
I can't think of a single country which is morally correct country to host WC. I mean if we go by that logic, none of the European giants deserve
I can't think of a single country which is morally correct country to host WC. I mean if we go by that logic, none of the European giants deserve
Until you're there and being offered 150 mil, you should just sit down and not take the 2021 moral ground with the standard "human rights" position.
Of course there would be people not taking it, that was not the point.
Dunno if you really understood my post.
I could also be a hillbilly and just say, absolutely nobody on this forum would refuse the money for his face to be used in a marketing campaign, otherwise we wouldn't be here. Hope you see the difference.
Well, players keep playing for oil clubs (even though they could survive without playing for them) and other clubs keep doing business with oil clubs and will do the same now with the brand new oil club (even though they would also survive without doing transfers with them) but how dare Becks agree to get money from them.
It's not life changing money for him though is it
150M in Becks money is like 50k in my life. Yeah, if I were to sell my soul to the devil, I'd need more than 50k.
What an utter hypocrite and phony, Beckham is, must be down to his last 450 million.
We don't know the state of Beck's finances, all his money might be tied up in property and Inter Miami. £150m ensures his great grandkids won't have to work if they don't want to. Good for him and his family.
Look. Their money is already in your high end real estate, in your stores, in your Christmas shopping numbers, in your defense contractors, in your football clubs... If you think this sponsorship is the needle that will now legitimize them in your society then I have a bridge in Kazakhstan to sell you
Would you beat up an old lady for 150mil?
It's actually very easy to say. It wouldn't even be a hard call.
There's a reason a very high percentage of ultra-rich people are sociopaths. It's utterly depressing though to read so many regular people on here apparently agree that a bag of blood money is more important than any of those pesty "values".
And yes, there are many of these questionable issues in modern day football, but one doesn't excuse the other.
There isn't country who is free of blood(either now or centuries ago) so yeah WC shouldn't be held anywhere, and just be erased from the memory.
Also Qatar and Saudi Arabia do business with lot of countries in the world, from UK, Germany,France, Netherlands,Japan,South Korea,China to Philippines,Vietnam,Morocco,South Africa,Nigeria,Turkey,Brazil,etc
If they don't do business with a country is cause that country is way too small to make any impact on their investments, like some caribbean island like Cuba or places like Papua Nueva Guinea.
Who's the old lady and where does she live?
This point is such a vacuous one.
I don't need to be offered the money to know my stance.
If you were offered the money to become an ambassador to a country where it was illegal to be Romanian, and that Romanians were considered evil and disgusting. Romanians would have to hide their true identity or face incarceration and punishment, would you accept it?
Even if you would accept the money, would you then label those who wouldn't as having "fecking insane morals", that "they need to get a fecking life"?
I understand people having different outlooks and stances on this, but I don't understand the posts mocking the idea of people disagreeing with it, or the idea they would turn the money down.
I understood your post fine, though I admit I have no idea what you're getting at with the bolded.
I get your point but £150 million isn't life-changing money Beckham. I'm sure he gets plenty of offers. Maybe not on that level, but still. For me, that World Cup is built on the blood of the people poor South Asian labourers building those stadiums in the worst conditions.
It obviously is otherwise why would he accept it? Because he loves Qatar and think's they're misunderstood? As you said, I bet he gets offers all the time for this shit and turns it down, why would he accept this one? For a laugh?
I agree with you, I know it is, but they're going to pay someone, it might as well be Beck's. It's not like most people don't know this WC is going to happen anyway, if they're stupid enough to pay it, then take it, donate half of it to Romania.
Shame on him.
Um...because he's more interested in lining his pockets than human rights? I know it's tough to accept that idols can have clay feet, but there were are...
So are you saying you think that Becks is hard up? At the very least, we shouldn't be applauding this, so to say 'good for him and his family' is a bit short sighted imo.
Blood money. Nothing more.
If Beckham doesn't take this money, will the Qataris change their stance on human rights? Or if Beckham does take this money, does that mean they're allowed to start dropping bombs on the likes of Romania?
Sports Washing doesn't affect anything in reality, we all know they're still abhorrent, I still won't visit and neither will you or most people here. If Beck's can £150m out of their pocket and into his own, and so some good with it then it's better than them having it and funding something more abhorrent.
So good for Beck's and his family, they're set up for future generations now.
Would you take a tour to qatar if someone pays you 150 million? I would. I mean if you are talking extreme example, why not go on the other end too.
My example isn't extreme at all. Maybe you don't know any gay people, well I do. I could never face them again if I had just agreed to be an ambassador for a decade for a country that doesn't acknowledge their right to exist.
certainly not all, but it's not actually a small minority for it, and the excuses "there's nothing we can do bla bla bla" is double standard at its finest.
So you wouldn't take money from a country that's bogus on human rights?
Careful, that's a can of massive worms we're opening
Careful, that's a can of massive worms we're opening
Did you talk the same thing about KdB when he is collecting pay check every week? What's so different here?
Xavi also endorsed killing Gay people?
Burning my PSG jersey.
So, you're defending City now?
KDB's employer is Man City and his job is playing football. I wish he played for a different club, but it's still completely different from being a spokesperson for a bloodthirsty regime.
To me, it sounds like something where they make an offer for something you don't want to really do (say they offered 10m), and instead of just saying no, he threw out some insanely high number thinking they would then balk at the number but they actually accepted it.
Qatar: hey we'll give you 10m to be our ambassador.
Beckham: feck that, I'd need 150m to be your WC ambassador
Qatar: sure, 150m then
I didn't defend any club or country.
KdB's employer is ManCity and who owns that club
Like I said, selective outrage.
There's plenty of outrage about Man City, PSG, Newcastle, etc.KdB's employer is ManCity and who owns that club
Like I said, selective outrage.
And again, there's a big difference between being an employee of a company that has a shady owner somewhere on the other side of the world and actually working with the bad guys directly to make them look good.
It's one thing to be a labourer on an oil rig, it's another going around telling the whole world how great oil mining is for the world.
According to google Beckham is wort 450M so he's getting a third of what he already has.
Would you take part in whitewashing a regime like this one for 33% of the money you have?
Would you take part in whitewashing a regime like this one for 33% of the money you have?
What material difference would it make to his life?
Compared to his reputation.