The sell outs guide book right here.Feck off, that's life changing money. I'm absolutely against the Qatar regime and everything they've done to get this World Cup in the first place, but it's going to happen anyway so Beck's might as well get £150m out of it and say to the press "yeah, it's going to be alright."
David Beckham reportedly agrees 150M deal to become ambassador for Qatar World Cup
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By almost do you mean that most people on here were against it?
Because I'd wager most were against it going off the threads discussing it.
Where is the morality in paying someone this amount of money to be some sort of ambassador?
What sort of ethical compass creates this sort of thing?
Pay him 5 million and spend the other 145 million on health and education of children in poverty or some sort of pressing problem in the world.
Where is the ethical compass in accepting that sort of deal?
What sort of ethical compass creates this sort of thing?
Pay him 5 million and spend the other 145 million on health and education of children in poverty or some sort of pressing problem in the world.
Where is the ethical compass in accepting that sort of deal?
Any country in which we wouldn't need to disrupt the Winter season would be better.
The bribery doesn't help either.
Not a single person on this forum wouldn't do the same for that money, in fact a lot of you would do worse.
Thread headline reads like extreme communist propaganda of the decadent captalists schemes and how they would eventually ruin and contaminate sport. The sort of thing i would laugh at my dad for ranting about.
Our relationship with money has become increasingly broken beyond all common sense.
Our relationship with money has become increasingly broken beyond all common sense.
Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't. But you can fathom that some people would turn it down right?
I can fathom that anyone when offered an imaginary sum of money in an imaginary scenario it's very, very easy to say you'd never touch it. If that contract hit anyone's inbox in real life they wouldn't even read it before sending it back signed.
Imagine not taking the money because you're concerned that some random bloke will call you a sell out? But I'm sure your wife, kids and grandkids won't care and will let you live it down when they're burying you in the back garden next to the dog.
You don’t know feck all about me. Your logic boils down to “well I would so everyone would”
feck me this thread has been depressing and I wish I’d never opened it. I can understand people taking the money, but the idea that you bc any even fathom why some wouldn’t is incredible.
No I perfectly understand, but unless you're a millionaire or naive, you can't possibly imagine how you would react when presented with that amount of money.
Let's say we both have equal wealth, they offer you the money, you turn it down on moral grounds. They offer me the money, I take it and give half to Romanian orphans. Technically I've done more good than you'll ever do, does that make me a sell out? What am I possibly going to do with all that cash? I don't need it all, I might as well give some away to a good cause.
Don't presume people are greedy because you are, take your own advice:
I think considering my personal circumstances I'm pretty confident what it would take for me to become an ambassador for a country which criminalises being lgbt. You're free to tell me I'm wrong on that, but I wouldn't say to someone who turned down becoming an ambassador for a country that practiced apartheid for personal reasons that they never know until the money is in front of them. I wouldn't say to a Jewish person that they have no idea if they would or wouldn't know if they'd become an ambassador for a country that celebrated the holocaust until the money was in front of them.
"you can't possibly imagine how you would react when presented with that amount of money."
Yet you're perfectly happy to imagine how people would react to that amount of money, despite having no idea who or what they are, based on how you would react? Interesting logic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
I never said it would make you a sell out. The sole argument I've made is against your Not a single person on this forum wouldn't do the same for that money, in fact a lot of you would do worse.
So whatever the feck that paragraph has to do with anything? I don't know, but it sure as feck has nothing to do with anything I've said or argued.
I'm trying hard to be civil here. I haven't once called you greedy. I haven't even implied anything of the sort to you. Read my messages to you, I'm hoping you made a genuine error while you misread my posts.
I haven't made a single presumption about you. You've made plenty of me, but I haven't made a single one about you.
Depends what he does with the dosh as well.
I remember Drogba did an advert for Pepsi (a pretty shitty product) and used the entire £3 million he received to build an orphanage in the Ivory Coast.
Becks could to a lot of good with even 1% of that 150 mil.
Becks sold his sold for ca$h
Some orphanage this
I just googled it, it was a hospital! I'm old, my memory is not what it was.
Beckham's e-mails were leaked by hackers. Becks was ranting quite a bit about him not getting knighthood, about him not wanting to put his own money in his philantrophy. He sounded like a annoying little crybaby. His demeanor and public image is way too plastic for my liking.
I hear you, but imagine the good some of that money could do for the LGBT community? Particularly those who are trapped there and genuinely can't be the people they really are. All you would have to do is turn up once a year, meet a sheik, pose for some pictures and do a couple of speeches. Once the contract is up you can tear them down from the inside. You can always make anonymous donations to any cause you wish to.
We've done quite a bit of to and fro-ing here so let's both agree on the fact that we don't know how we, or anyone, would react if faced with the genuine amount of money in question here, and it's unfair to expect others to act in the way we may if we had said opportunity.
What I'm suggesting is that most would take the money due to the life changing nature of that amount for whatever reason, however, in my opinion the amount of good (or bad) you could do with that money if you had a plan for it, instead of thinking it would just sit in a Vanguard account accruing 4% a year, is unlimited, and to say you would turn it down when you could genuinely help people and change lives, I believe is short sighted due to the nature of the place it comes from. The Qataris and Saudis own most of the property in London, and god knows what else, we give them more than we will ever know so taking some back isn't an issue in my opinion.
Anyway, I can see that this is a sensitive topic for you so I'll leave it at that.
He can do a lot of good without this money.
Not nearly the same impact
We don't know that most of his cash flow isn't tied up in Inter Miami or whatever other financial liabilities he may have. Nor do we know what he'll use this money for.
Why not?
This is the dumbest statement I've read on the internet this year.
Because you can impact much more lives and much more causes if you have money than if you don't.
Right, what we do know he's that he's accepting money to help whitewash a disgusting regime. If someone brings up what he can do with the money, I think it's fair to say he could come up with better ways to get money for a good cause.
I live in Dubai, so I can't complain. I work in Doha sometimes with my company so I can't exactly criticize him. I guarantee if any one of you were offered 1% of that to promote the World Cup, you'd be on the first flight to Doha decked in full local outfit, learning Arabic on Rosetta Stone on the flight over.
But he has money, and I bet it would be really easy for him to get money in different ways to fund this worthy cause people seem to be suggesting he's going to use the money for.
Doubt that
I was talking in general tbh, not about Becks
I get what you’re saying. My problem with this topic isn’t that Beckham would take the money, or that people hypothetically would, like you said there’s a lot of good you could do with the money and you could make an argument against any country or company. It was solely the amount of posters saying that nobody would turn it down. There’s stuff I’ve done for money that people on here would absolute find immoral, so this isn’t coming from some absolute moral standpoint. But like everyone else I have my own characteristics and perceptions, and we all experience the world in a different way. And to some extent those saying they couldn’t believe anyone would turn it down felt like a dismissal of those struggles, even if not intended.
But I’m happy to leave it there too, I think we’ve both said our piece and we both understand each other better.
Fair enough.
Definitely a contender though
Becks is being paid to promote the World Cup, not to be Quatar's new Minister of tourism, so using your analogy he's not going around telling the whole world how great oil mining is, he's more like the spokesperson/face of the oil company's ping pong tournament that's being broadcasted world wide.
Yeah, please get your facts straight before you make a comment.
He's being paid 150 million to become an ambassador for the country for ten years.
He'll obviously be the face of their WC campaign, but after that, he will be promoting tourism and culture.
Well that's what I get for reading the OP I guess. My bad.
For a $150m I would get a Liverpool crest tattoo on one arse cheek and a City on on the other!
insane money, not sure any of us would turn it down
insane money, not sure any of us would turn it down
But but but.. 150mil. On a serious note he probably thinks at nearly 50 its very flattering he still can find a job like this.
Surely they mean £15m
Happens all the time. You can already guess most of the posts whenever this kind of topic is brought up. That's just the way it is, people (especially on the internet) like to loudly decline something on moral grounds while quietly accepting something just as bad somewhere else, except now with some smug moral superiorityI didn't defend any club or country.
KdB's employer is ManCity and who owns that club
Like I said, selective outrage.
Yeah half a billion in the bank, he’s going to struggle to make ends meet. Needs to get a Saturday job at Asda.
Let's be real, 95%+ of people would do this if offered it.