Lynk
Obsessed with discrediting Danny Welbeck
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Best keeper in the world, delighted for him.
£23 million is cheap? And if I remember correctly, Suarez was sold off of the back of the season where he bit the PSV player Bakkal and the Ajax fans wanted him sold.And a player isn't just related to how good he is, or how important he is to the team play. There are factors, like sponsors, club global value, player's reputation, nationality, etc. That's how Liverpool got Suarez (2 times Ajax player of the year) so cheap.
Well, there you go. Wiki has De Gea at 1.91m (6'3") which would fit, exactly, with the difference in heights when they were walking alongside each other on the pitch on Tuesday night.Wiki has him at 1.86 M or 6'1"
Well, there you go. Wiki has De Gea at 1.91m (6'3") which would fit, exactly, with the difference in heights when they were walking alongside each other on the pitch on Tuesday night.
So either wiki is wrong about both their heights or De Gea really is 6' 3" and the consensus on here that he was nowhere near that height because of a few random photos where he looked the same height as Phil Jones is/was completely wrong.
Exaggerated but he is in that road.Best keeper in the world, delighted for him.
Brilliant!
I'd say he's closer to Rafael/Evra's height (about 5'8" - 5'9").
Although gks never seem to command the same fees that they would if they were outfield players. After all, when we bought De Gea he was the promising young keeper at the time. No other keeper had as much hype around them. He was essentially the Gotze of goalkeeping, and yet we paid £19m for him whilst Bayern just paid £32m for Gotze.50-60m sounds ridiculous price-tag now. But in 5 yrs time or so, it won't be that shocking. Bayern just bought a 20 y.o. Gotze for 38m. Lucas Moura was bought for 40m. They aren't Gk, but that just show how crazy the football inflation is.
And a player isn't just related to how good he is, or how important he is to the team play. There are factors, like sponsors, club global value, player's reputation, nationality, etc. That's how Liverpool got Suarez (2 times Ajax player of the year) so cheap.
Not long ago, the players like David Silva and Mata only went for 25-30m. Now even the like of Reus that has done nothing of sort, went 17m.Although gks never seem to command the same fees that they would if they were outfield players. After all, when we bought De Gea he was the promising young keeper at the time. No other keeper had as much hype around them. He was essentially the Gotze of goalkeeping, and yet we paid £19m for him whilst Bayern just paid £32m for Gotze.
I was telling Lynk about this a few weeks ago.
His English is brilliant.
This has been going on for so long now I can't pick out the sarcasm from the serious posts.
I'd say he's closer to Rafael/Evra's height (about 5'8" - 5'9").
Denis Irwin, I thinkSounds like Roy Keane in that video
Anyone who doesn't think that De Gea has been the best keeper in England this season is either very bitter or is an idiot.
Fantastic season
He's slowly getting the recognition now, and he has a decent chance of being in the PFA team of the season. He's got to be the favourite really.The reality is he's not going to get near the credit he deserves. So many people wrote him off last season, and the vast majority won't eat humble pie.
No chance.He's slowly getting the recognition now, and he has a decent chance of being in the PFA team of the season. He's got to be the favourite really.
He's showing how confident he is on and off the pitch. Just look at how much he's improved in speaking English. He's a clever lad no doubt.
His English is brilliant.
Either that, or those same people just do not watch enough of him to see how brilliant he had become. Just look at our GD this season compared to city's. These people don't know how to do the maths.The reality is he's not going to get near the credit he deserves. So many people wrote him off last season, and the vast majority won't eat humble pie.
Sounds like Roy Keane in that video
Made you think who in th dressing room has the most influence on his spoken English... Will be interesting to find out who his English teacher is, who has done a good job apparently.Denis Irwin, I think
The one from Mata in the FA Cup was sensational too, absolutely stunning goalkeeping.The save from Bryan Ruiz is the save of the season in England, while the save from Coentrao shoot is possibly the save of the season in UCL.
I don't mean to derail the thread, but domestically, Reus was excellent at Monchengladbach. A relatively sub-average side who he really carried. He hadn't done anything on the world stage at that point, because he wasn't playing for a team that could do that. His final 2 of his 3 seasons at Monchengladbach were terrific, and he's continued to be excellent for Dortmund. 17m Euros, whatever that is in £, was a very good price for him. It could have been alot more, but that was the buy out clause in his contract.Not long ago, the players like David Silva and Mata only went for 25-30m. Now even the like of Reus that has done nothing of sort, went 17m.
Hmm, not sure if I've misunderstood this but I don't get the relevance of the goal difference? If you looked at it it shows City have conceded 5 less goals than us it's just that we scored more. I don't know how anyone would look at that and view it as a compliment to de Gea really?Either that, or those same people just do not watch enough of him to see how brilliant he had become. Just look at our GD this season compared to city's. These people don't know how to do the maths.
I'd say he's closer to Rafael/Evra's height (about 5'8" - 5'9").
I take it when VDS went 1000 minutes without conceding he faced chance after chance each game. Of course someone like Mignolet is going to be busier than de Gea, it's the same for any lower team and why Ben Foster looked great at West Brom.Yeah, there's a peculiar obsession on here with De Gea not getting the credit he deserves. He's really come into his own as the season progresses but up until Christmas, he was being rotated in and out of the team. This is not something that would happen to the stand out best keeper in the league.
If we talk about who is the best keeper, right now, he'd be up there. Cech would also have a good shout. Likewise the usual suspects from some clubs lower down the league table. It's really hard to identify the best keeper anyway, as the game is so different depending which team they play for. In our long run of clean sheets, De Gea only faced 4 or 5 shots on his goal. Which requires a very different skill-set to what someone like Mignolet was going through at the same time.
For me, he's the keeper with the most potential and his recent form would put him up there amongst the best keepers in the league. That's it though. There's no way he's been the best keeper in the league this season and I find it weird the way so many people get annoyed that the media don't see it that way.
I thought the point Pogue was trying to make is that it's hard to rank the keepers due to what they do during the game? Which it obviously is. People like Minoglet or Krul for example probably face 2 to 3 times more shots per game than a de Gea or Hart due to their defense being worse so naturally they are going to concede more goals. Of course Hart and de Gea have to always be alert as there is that split second where anything can happen.I take it when VDS went 1000 minutes without conceding he faced chance after chance each game. Of course someone like Mignolet is going to be busier than de Gea, it's the same for any lower team and why Ben Foster looked great at West Brom.