Admittedly I don’t watch all Brentford’s games but I’ve seen enough to form an opinion. We have a keeper who is one of the best shot stoppers but Ten Hag wants a keeper who is better with their feet and Raya isn’t great in my opinion. If we’re going to spend 40m+ on a keeper I’d rather look elsewhere
This is where I'm at.
Raya has made an average of 4.13 saves per game this season (the highest in the PL) versus De Gea's 2.66 (15th highest)
What’s that as a percentage of the shots they’ve faced?
This was before the weekends games, posted this in the DDG thread.
Cheers, that’s a fair enough stat.
Please elaborate on that. I've tried to keep away from this thread because I think it's bonkers in terms of how stats are used (and downplayed), but I would like to hear more on what you said.
Well, we aren't 8th in the table because matches tend to reset every 90 minutes.
Raya has faced an average of 5.57 shots on target per game and De Gea an average of 3.97 per game so 74% and 67% respectively
And I understand you did this and the result shows De Gea is higher than Raya- can I see this? Because however I spin this table, De Gea is in the bottom half and lower than all the big names mentioned as possible replacement.
Yeah, I kinda did. The site you use just break it down on a per-90 basis, it doesn't go into matches themselves.
Isn't that stat (points netted) influenced by the number of goals your team score in those games?
That's correct.
Pickford vs us had 2,18 psxG faced, with 2 goals conceded, so a result of +0,18.
Yes stats are used indiscriminately here. A save % stat means nothing without context. DeGea‘s is over 80% in Europa League.
Well as someone who watches all of their games live home and away I can assure you that your opinion based on a small sample size is misplaced - he is excellent with his feet, that is the main reason he has taken De Gea's spot in the national team squad. As I've said previously I think De Gea is a superior shot stopper but I can't think of many keepers who are better than De Gea in that respect, if any. However on the ball and as a sweeper keeper the difference between De Gea and Raya is light and day.
So this doesn't exactly tell you which goalkeeper is better, rather how the team performed.
Bolded part is true, besides the fact that De Gea‘s kicking and passing is downplayed by those who want to replace him.
I’d say Raya was as good a shot stopper as De Gea - he’s one of the better shot stoppers around, as is De Gea
Are you suggesting that we sign Leno, or did I misunderstand something?
Go back to the beginning of the season in our match against Brentford. De Gea was blamed for giving poor passes to marked players. One in particular was a pass to Erikson. Instead of giving it off first time, Erikson took a touch and lost the ball. People freaked out on here because they said De Gea never should have passed him the ball. We can see in this video the same pass happening over and over again. The difference is, the player it's passed to isn't taking a touch but rather passing it off with his first touch. If we were to bring someone like this keeper in, the "experts" around here need to understand that if this same pass happens and it gets messed up, it's usually on the player who received the pass, not the player who gave it. I'm not a huge De Gea fan. But it's not because of his ball playing ability. I personally think that he is more than capable with the ball at his feet. My biggest problem is his dominance (or lack there of) of his 6 yard box and his overall positioning.
In the event that De Gea leaves (can't agree contract) I think it could be a shrewd alternative.
Arteta binned Leno in favour of a probably worse shot stopper in Ramsdale, just because the latter can use his two feet. The results speak for themselves.
Results speak for themselves? Noone has more errors than Ramsdale this season. His passing is shocking. I think Arsenal would have been in at least the same position as they are now with Leno.
You couldn't be more wrong.
These stats look good for Leno, but Fulham doesn't play the same way Arsenal and City do...and he was replaced by Ramsdale for a reason.
Here's literally the two things I said backed up by numbers.
