Pleased to see Saka starting. Looks like I'm the only one!
Werner scares me.
Werner scares me.
Day 17: England vs Germany | Sweden vs Ukraine (Ro16 7&8)
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Not liking the formation with five defenders and two DMs. We better hope the wing backs drive forward.
We are going to find it difficult to get out is my prediction. There is no AM, so our central attack will be poor. Every time we have played this formation, we have been terrible.
We are going to find it difficult to get out is my prediction. There is no AM, so our central attack will be poor. Every time we have played this formation, we have been terrible.
lee Dixon will be very pleased as well.
Best attacking options we've seen in forever and he plays 8 out of 11 defensive players.
YES, he starts Saka. Finally!
Wow. That line-up is so full of negativity. Might as well add Ming as a striker.
I like Saka in there, I rate him. Just feel he should've been the wingback instead of Trippier, and Grealish should be in the attack. That would probably be our best team.
Damn, how could I even... time for self whipping in the name of J. Cleese.
Cowardly selection from Southgate. Joke manager
It is just like us with Morata yesterday. You KNOW that Werner will score
I wouldn’t mind if it was Mount or Grealish or Foden partnering Rice. 5 defenders, 2 defensive midfielders & a winger who also plays full back is pathetic. Germany aren’t that good. We are setting up like we’re Norwich going away to Man City. It’s horribly negative.
This. I am really struggling to see how we can beat England with him up front. I miss Klose.
What a cowardly team selection. England haven't conceded a goal playing a back four but feck it, let's go as defensive as we can. The Germans will see that line up and think they've got us beaten.
I mean Müller, Gnabry, Havertz clearly hasn't worked out so well, they were all too similar and operating too much in the same spaces. I'm not a fan of Werner in general, but I actually see the point in including him ahead of Gnabry, to add more width and depth.
Finally? He started the previous game only 7 days ago.
Not surprised to see Southgate go with a back three/five. Portugal got annihilated when they failed to control Germany's wingbacks (particularly Gosens, who will now be up against Trippier and Walker on the same flank).
I wouldn't even put that past Southgate.
Take Sterling out and put Reece James in.
It's like he's playing the wingback meta on FIFA 21.
Doesn't count. That was against the Czechs.
He never had faith in Saka against top teams like Croatia. But now he's starting Saka against Germany, ahead of Mount & Foden. That sends a big message.
Southgate clearly thinking he's going to shithouse his way to a 1-0 win here. Imagine having all this attacking talent and then going and playing like Burnley.
Chelsea won the Champs League with Werner and Havertz and they were up against better sides than this England XI.This. I am really struggling to see how we can beat England with him up front. I miss Klose.
I would say that was in spite of having Werner, Chelsea still managed to win.
Very little threat from England. Can see Germany being 2-0 up at HT and England having to change their entire approach.
If anything, interesting to see how this pans out. Not confident to say the least.
If anything, interesting to see how this pans out. Not confident to say the least.
England will beat us I have no doubt about that. This is the team I fear most and England is a match-up nightmare for Germany. We beat Portugal only because they were so attacking and play right into our hands. You saw how Die Mannschaft massively struggled against defensive teams like France and Hungary. This will either be a England 1-0, 2-0, or a bore 0-0 and might go to penalties.Congrats England fans, the tournament is yours to lose now.
fcking stupid from Southgate to match systems with Germany. When has England every played a 343?
So if Chelsea can do it, Germany certainly can!
I actually think differently. I thought that when it means positions they worked pretty fine. Werner drives me crazy in every match he plays for Germany. Against France the main problem in my eyes were that the speed Germany moved the ball and the risks the midfield took were far too low for the attack to shine as none of them really is a dribbler.
The only good thing is that Werner will not be on the pitch anymore for a penalty shootout... Oh, my nerves...
I'm currently torn between watching the game tonight or the grass grow on my front lawn.
Such a difficult decision.
Well let's see shall we.
Have the same feeling. 1-0 first half. Germany running against a wall with no ideas. Another quick break and 2-0. From there it might be even worse if Löw risk it all and send another 3 forwards onto the pitch.
Everyone talking about the great creative and attacking talents we finally have in Mount, Foden and Grealish and not one of them gets a game...what a shame.
Total anti-football. England deserve to get thrashed for being so negative.
Im seriously considering going out for 9 holes
Nobody can distribute the ball in that England line up, except Maguire.
No Grealish again, Southgate is a joke. Don't mind seeing England going out with that negative team selection and style.
Did Werner even perform for Chelsea though? I don't recall him scoring a lot of goals. He has been underperforming everytime I see him. Havertz has been good but I don't see how we can score with such a defensive line-up from your side.
Glory?
Why on earth would you not play a 4 2 3 1 with rice and Phillips ? surely that is defensive enough? then can put grealish in to link better to attack.
Shaw and Tripper are going to have to play amazing now then to link to kane or else kane will not be in the game at all
Shaw and Tripper are going to have to play amazing now then to link to kane or else kane will not be in the game at all
If england were used to playing that system it would be one thing...he'd have been better off going 352 as they know that system and it works well against the 3421
That's the best lineup Germany have put out all tournament IMO.
Probably the worst England one too
What the feck Southgate you are such a coward holy shit. I hope they get battered for being so anti football. At wembley with all those players and only one team will show up wanting to play football and the other just trying to stop football from happening.
Probably the worst England one too
What the feck Southgate you are such a coward holy shit. I hope they get battered for being so anti football. At wembley with all those players and only one team will show up wanting to play football and the other just trying to stop football from happening.I for one would be delighted with a 1-0.