Jeez don't say that I am finding in hard to forget about it. Definitely gonna be a sleepless night thinking what IF
Day 19: Morocco vs Portugal | England vs France (QF 3&4)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
TheNewEra
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Just pretend England never existed and move on with your life, it's what I do every tournament.Jeez don't say that I am finding in hard to forget about it. Definitely gonna be a sleepless night thinking what IF
Bury all feelings deep down its totally healthy.
With every major tournament come up with a plan to deal with England disappointment because its bound to happen at some point.
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That’s exactly why he changed the run up, his head was simply gone for the second penaltyWhyyyy did he change run up on that second one,damn it letting his club teammate get in his head at the wrong time.
with hindsight it sounds great now to say why wasn’t a 2nd penalty taker thought of in this scenario?…..it’s Harry Kane, before the miss, Most would have said he’s probably got this
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The first pen was unsaveable imo. Just bury it same side.That’s exactly why he changed the run up, his head was simply gone for the second penalty
with hindsight it sounds great now to say why wasn’t a 2nd penalty taker thought of in this scenario?…..it’s Harry Kane, before the miss, Most would have said he’s probably got this
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Yeah IF only he could have done thatThe first pen was unsaveable imo. Just bury it same side.
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Well that’s a good post and I agree with most you said. But I just didn’t feel England was going to pull it off, it lacked a spark to me, something that France did have today. Despite being dominated I think France generally felt ok with it. They were still able to produce good counterattacks. It was reminiscent of the game vs Belgium 4 years earlier. Belgians felt hard done by but in the end France was quite comfortable for most of the game.
I name Shaw as lacking that spark for example. He lost a few duels in the air where he didn’t even jump, Foden disappeared in the 2nd half when England was at their best. Saka was both good and bad. He got dispossessed a lot and the ref never saw a fault. Let this happen to the Argentines and they roll around for 30sec making the ref nervous.
Stuff like that is simply needed imo if you want to go far.
It is always something with England BUT who knows maybe the players lacked the necessary experience, they’re young.
Keep in mind though this was practically a B side for France with all their injuries.
Those 50/50 games never go in favor of England and there must be a reason for that. For me it a lack of self believe. The fans have the same problem. The “ it’s coming home” chant is just a way of coping with failure tournament after tournament, the fans don’t believe in success either.
In Europe football fans say those English fans are arrogant but that is not how I see it, it is a trauma and the players have it too.
PS maybe passion doesn’t win games but a lack of passion certainly makes teams lose games.
Well that’s a good post and I agree with most you said. But I just didn’t feel England was going to pull it off, it lacked a spark to me, something that France did have today. Despite being dominated I think France generally felt ok with it. They were still able to produce good counterattacks. It was reminiscent of the game vs Belgium 4 years earlier. Belgians felt hard done by but in the end France was quite comfortable for most of the game.
I name Shaw as lacking that spark for example. He lost a few duels in the air where he didn’t even jump, Foden disappeared in the 2nd half when England was at their best. Saka was both good and bad. He got dispossessed a lot and the ref never saw a fault. Let this happen to the Argentines and they roll around for 30sec making the ref nervous.
Stuff like that is simply needed imo if you want to go far.
It is always something with England BUT who knows maybe the players lacked the necessary experience, they’re young.
Keep in mind though this was practically a B side for France with all their injuries.
Those 50/50 games never go in favor of England and there must be a reason for that. For me it a lack of self believe. The fans have the same problem. The “ it’s coming home” chant is just a way of coping with failure tournament after tournament, the fans don’t believe in success either.
In Europe football fans say those English fans are arrogant but that is not how I see it, it is a trauma and the players have it too.
PS maybe passion doesn’t win games but a lack of passion certainly makes teams lose games.
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What made his head go is the big questionThat’s exactly why he changed the run up, his head was simply gone for the second penalty
with hindsight it sounds great now to say why wasn’t a 2nd penalty taker thought of in this scenario?…..it’s Harry Kane, before the miss, Most would have said he’s probably got this
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Yeah it's clear as day the players lack self belief in those critical moments and just aren't clutch. I also think you are spot on about there being little belief we are going to end that long wait.@slyadams
Well that’s a good post and I agree with most you said. But I just didn’t feel England was going to pull it off, it lacked a spark to me, something that France did have today. Despite being dominated I think France generally felt ok with it. They were still able to produce good counterattacks. It was reminiscent of the game vs Belgium 4 years earlier. Belgians felt hard done by but in the end France was quite comfortable for most of the game.
I name Shaw as lacking that spark for example. He lost a few duels in the air where he didn’t even jump, Foden disappeared in the 2nd half when England was at their best. Saka was both good and bad. He got dispossessed a lot and the ref never saw a fault. Let this happen to the Argentines and they roll around for 30sec making the ref nervous.
Stuff like that is simply needed imo if you want to go far.
It is always something with England BUT who knows maybe the players lacked the necessary experience, they’re young.
Keep in mind though this was practically a B side for France with all their injuries.
Those 50/50 games never go in favor of England and there must be a reason for that. For me it a lack of self believe. The fans have the same problem. The “ it’s coming home” chant is just a way of coping with failure tournament after tournament, the fans don’t believe in success either.
In Europe football fans say those English fans are arrogant but that is not how I see it, it is a trauma and the players have it too.
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Just finished the game. England will be kicking themselves. This game was there for the taking and they were they dominated after the 20 minute/ opening goal mark. Mbappe didn't do anything and France couldn't really get moves going.
The problem with England was
- Mental block they've always had in these big knockout games
- Their CBs who just had to cost them
- I think they could have done with one more attacker on the pitch. Foden and Saka are good but both semi midfielders. Rashford in place of Foden may have taken some fire power burden off Kane
The problem with England was
- Mental block they've always had in these big knockout games
- Their CBs who just had to cost them
- I think they could have done with one more attacker on the pitch. Foden and Saka are good but both semi midfielders. Rashford in place of Foden may have taken some fire power burden off Kane
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Have to say, don't feel anything like the despair I do when United lose. Quite a few pundits at the beginning of the tournament said that it was quite likely we would face Spain in the QF and didn't expect us to get beyond that. I agreed. The sad thing is France didn't play all that well so we had a chance and didn't take it. I really feel Southgate has taken the team as far as he can and we now need a much more experienced national team manager.
On a separate note, I wonder if Portugal will now approach one Jose Mourinho...
On a separate note, I wonder if Portugal will now approach one Jose Mourinho...
hellhunter
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Yep, could've told Lloris where he's going to shoot and would've still scoredThe first pen was unsaveable imo. Just bury it same side.
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I think Foden should be eyeing that kind of role.Griezmann sensational in that #8 role too. We didn’t get a hold of him all game.
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Close game. Upa with several brainfarts, Maguire with one (the Giroud goal). Kane is not to blame, he was under huge pressure. At the end of the day, keepers were the difference.
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If Foden was meant for that, he'd be doing it at City...I think Foden should be eyeing that kind of role.
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Shame, but I did have the feeling he'd miss after scoring first one, especially as it was as you say against his club teammate.Whyyyy did he change run up on that second one,damn it letting his club teammate get in his head at the wrong time.
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Then leave it for someone elseShame, but I did have the feeling he'd miss after scoring first one, especially as it was as you say against his club teammate.
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Why is Morocco wearing Spain and portugal's national colors? Like 80% red 20% green
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Giroud goal not on Maguire. He had to react late due to Stones not picking up?Close game. Upa with several brainfarts, Maguire with one (the Giroud goal). Kane is not to blame, he was under huge pressure. At the end of the day, keepers were the difference.
.... Have you seen their flag?Why is Morocco wearing Spain and portugal's national colors? Like 80% red 20% green
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Wow.Why is Morocco wearing Spain and portugal's national colors? Like 80% red 20% green
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Yeah good point. Why is the flag Spain and Portugal colours??.... Have you seen their flag?
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Geez, I wonder why...Why is Morocco wearing Spain and portugal's national colors? Like 80% red 20% green