On his day Bailly is excellent, but his injury record, off days and capacity for a feck up just are too often
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No seriously, look at the first page, barely anyone had a fecking clue who he was
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/eric-bailly-bbc-say-signing-is-imminent.418263/
I loved JP's post tooBut as you can see, the people that did watch him, rated him very highly at the time. As do the people who watch Dayot. I think there are a lot of posters excited and who would jump on this hype (me included) without watching him enough.
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If we sell 7: Romero, Dalot, Rojo, Jones, Smalling, Lingard and Andreas; we may be able to get as much as £90m for them. But in a slow transfer season like the present it may mostly come down to loans with buy clauses. 3 of those contracts end next summer: Romero, Rojo and Lingard. Those 3 must be sold at a discount now.
Estudiantes wants Rojo but for peanuts, at this point we should take whatever they offer instead of continuing to pay his wages
They had to play UCL after July
Indeed so he isnt good enough
He is our best centre back.
Rubbish
Good work
True, but the club still went with it instead of just telling him to not be a feckin moron. (though you could argue they didn't have a choice)
Theres no way. We would never sell that many from the squad in one summer. If we make £60 million in sales this summer I’d be shocked.
Romero - 33 and injury prone. Hasn’t been first choice for years. Anywhere from free to £5 million.
Dalot - signed for £19 million, and probably worth less now given how little he’s played and his injury record.
Rojo - free due to wages and injury record.
Jones - free due to injury record and wages.
Smalling - sounds like we’re holding out for £20 million. Italian clubs don’t seem to be willing to pay it.
Lingard and Andreas - both would struggle to assert themselves at prem clubs. Lingard probably the better player but on a bigger wage, but id say £15 million each would be decent.
100% agree.
The only reason he will stay yet another year, I’d because Jones and Rojo are even less reliable. Shocking to have 3 appalling centre backs like this at the club who have cost so much, and are paid a fortune to do nothing.
Woof... Ed would be a miracle worker
We'd get 20m for Smalling and maybe 15m for Lingard. The rest we'd be looking at 10m max... More like 5m or free in some cases. I'd say 50m total if we're lucky.
What?!Extremely poor on our behalf to show interest in signing a player just after he's committed himself to a newer contract eradicating the previous clause.
Nonsense
Bailly is our most talented and best centre back when fit. If you cannot see that you must be rub the media nonsense from your eyes.
Missing white text mate
Yeah, Lingard is our best attacking midfielder too.
Sure mate. He's never fit, when he plays he's rash and erratic. He'll never be a topclass defender.
Maguire is. But Bailly is behind him, but he cannot stay fit so that argument is quite moot
I’d agree with the most talented bit, but he’s not the best and there’s almost no chance of him ever becoming one at this point.
Guess you know better than Ole
If Lingard would take pens then he would match Bruno for goals most likely if he played every week.
Just like Bailly would match Maguire if he played every week for clean sheets.
Yeah sure.
Idiotic post gets idiotic comparison, sadly all your posts get idiotic replies.
So Bailley and Upamecano should be our CB pairing. Makes sense now
But as you can see, the people that did watch him, rated him very highly at the time. As do the people who watch Dayot. I think there are a lot of posters excited and who would jump on this hype (me included) without watching him enough.
Because we have Ed Woodward
Just gets better and better. Apparently the guy who should be one of the first to leave the club suddenly became our best centre back Just if Lingard takes the pens then Bruno doesn't so that gives Lingard a high boost in the battle for most goals.
Although Lingard could be rubbish at pens and score under 70%, but still get around 7 goals per season plus 2-3 from regular play.
Same as if Bailly played all games he would do well, but he is not since he is injured and not good enough.
Are you competing with the other guy to see who comes up with most stupid post?
We wouldn't. This story is almost certainly rubbish.
If you think "best CB" and "most talented ... when fit .. on a good hairday.. potentially in 12 years" is the same thing then it's probably you who needs help.
I liked his qualities when he arrived and he may yet fulfill his potential but based on quality of performances (the main criteria) he's nowhere near as our best CB.
Just did take the Bailly example to the extreme. If Bailly could stay fit then he would be a good defender, but he can not.
Just like Lingard could score a lot if he took our penalties since we get so many, but noone sane would let him take them though.
What exactly are his talents? Agree he has many good attributes but also many poor attributes, like poor awareness, poor positioning, weak in the air and poor decision making. All summed together I would not say he is our most talented CB.
Anyway, even if we buy Upamecano, I doubt Ole would sell any of Bailly or Lindelof. It wouldn’t make sense. Lindelof and Maguire are the only who have stayed fit and buying a young player from Bundesliga involves the risk that he won’t adapt. Add all his injuries to that. Plus Ole needs 3-4 CB at PL level. This season Maguire and Lindelof had to play through fatigue and minor injuries because no one else is fit.
But if we get a new CB I think it is good bye for Tuanzebe.
Anyone watched him regularly?
If you think difference between Lingard and Bruno is just penalties then there is nothing more to discuss.
Actually I would be surprised if you didn't think this way.
Eh? Have you bothered to read my initial posts?So Bailley and Upamecano should be our CB pairing. Makes sense now
Bailly’s extreme fan club is weird, no matter how many nothing seasons he has year after year, they remain impressively loyal.
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