Should hand in a transfer request then.Maybe it's not about money, maybe he's tired of this mess and wants to play out his last few peak years in the CL and fighting for some trophies, instead on languishing around 6th place for the last 6 years?
He effectively has in his refusal to sign a new contract that's been on the table for 12 months.Should hand in a transfer request then.
He probably will or maybe he has and we don't know.Should hand in a transfer request then.
Totally agree. I think people overrated him when they compare him to Schmeichel and VDS. He is a brilliant shot-stopper with brilliant reflex, but that's about it. Take away that, like this season has shown, he is indeed very average or even poor.What an odd situation.
A brilliant player - best shot-stopper I personally have ever seen - stuck with us for one reason or another through a very rough patch wherein many of us admitted that as a player, he probably deserved better.
But then his form this season has been atrocious, the tail-end was just unbelievable. You could legitimately say I think that if two or three of those errors don't happen, we make top four.
To add to this hes picking now to try and bend us over a barrel wage-wise? Regardless of previous sentiment that just doesn't sit well with me.
I think given the way he plays he's unlikely to be a great keeper in his thirties. Once that shot-stopping is out the window I'd say he's pretty poor in fact, unless he can reinvent his game.
It's a tough one, but for me on balance I think he should be sold - if he refuses to sign a new deal this summer.
Henderson looks bright, I don't particularly rate Romero as a #1 but maybe with a vastly improved back line he'd do for a season.
Either way I think long term we're either looking at keeping a lesser De Gea once hes into his thirties (just a guess of course), or we replace ahead of time.
Tough one.
Yknow it's odd - I would say he's at the same level as Schmeichel and VDS weirdly enough, he's just a very different keeper.Totally agree. I think people overrated him when they compare him to Schmeichel and VDS. He is a brilliant shot-stopper with brilliant reflex, but that's about it. Take away that, like this season has shown, he is indeed very average or even poor.
Yes but I've seen many keeper usually performs better in weaker side, would fail to do so in bigger side. The reason could be because they have more chances to make more saves and look more impressive in a game when they are playing in a weaker side. While at a stronger side, its harder to remain focus throughout the game while being less engaged, but still able make a world class save out of nowhere from opponents in rare moments. This is where Schmeichel and VDS are very good at, but not so for De Gea.Yknow it's odd - I would say he's at the same level as Schmeichel and VDS weirdly enough, he's just a very different keeper.
Perfect for a team with a paper thin defence, constantly active throughout the game (I'm thinking Ole's first game against Spurs here as a prime example). He excels when under consistent pressure, or at least, he did when in top form.
On the other hand VDS & Schmeichel were far more commanding players, who complimented a solid defence where much of their role was organising / clearing out the box from high balls etc, as opposed to straight up acrobatics.
So I think he was the perfect keeper to excel during our gradual decline into the state we're in now. Is he the perfect keeper for our - hopefully - successfully rebuilt side and rise back up to where we should be? I'd say probably not.
Having said that, were he to rethink his position and sign a sensible deal, I'd be all for him staying. Loan out Hendo and see how he develops, maybe even sell with a buy-back as he looks too big a talent both in terms of his ability and mentality to just let go of.
Loyalty does go both ways for me, while we need to set a new precident with regards ridiculous contracts.
I still hope he signs but honestly don't see it being the end of the world were he to leave, as long as we rebuild our defence properly this time.
Agreed.Yes but I've seen many keeper usually performs better in weaker side, would fail to do so in bigger side. The reason could be because they have more chances to make more saves and look more impressive in a game when they are playing in a weaker side. While at a stronger side, its harder to remain focus throughout the game while being less engaged, but still able make a world class save out of nowhere from opponents in rare moments. This is where Schmeichel and VDS are very good at, but not so for De Gea.
Remember Bosnich, who is great shot-stopper and was outstanding when playing for Aston Villa, but happened to be quite poor for us and flopped, when our side usually dominate in games back in those days. I wonder same goes for De Gea, who is a great player in an average side, but for Spain, which a far more dominant side, he looks pretty average there over the years.
Do you think Madrid will sell a player of that caliber for £50M regardless of confidence level or contract?Who's going to pay more for a goalkeeper who's lost all confidence and has one year left? Be realistic
This argument works only if he takes a wage cut and goes to clubs like PSG, Juventus, Bayern, clubs where he is guaranteed to win trophies. I personally think it is about his age also, this extension could be his last big payday.Maybe it's not about money, maybe he's tired of this mess and wants to play out his last few peak years in the CL and fighting for some trophies, instead on languishing around 6th place for the last 6 years?
Whos to say he cannot adjust his game to compensate not having super quick reflexes anymore and be less reliant on them?He's still young enough to be part of a rebuilt team if he chooses to stick around and we get our sh!t together.What an odd situation.
A brilliant player - best shot-stopper I personally have ever seen - stuck with us for one reason or another through a very rough patch wherein many of us admitted that as a player, he probably deserved better.
But then his form this season has been atrocious, the tail-end was just unbelievable. You could legitimately say I think that if two or three of those errors don't happen, we make top four.
To add to this hes picking now to try and bend us over a barrel wage-wise? Regardless of previous sentiment that just doesn't sit well with me.
I think given the way he plays he's unlikely to be a great keeper in his thirties. Once that shot-stopping is out the window I'd say he's pretty poor in fact, unless he can reinvent his game.
It's a tough one, but for me on balance I think he should be sold - if he refuses to sign a new deal this summer.
Henderson looks bright, I don't particularly rate Romero as a #1 but maybe with a vastly improved back line he'd do for a season.
Either way I think long term we're either looking at keeping a lesser De Gea once hes into his thirties (just a guess of course), or we replace ahead of time.
Tough one.
He isn't magically going to find his voice and learn how to command his back line out of the blue. We've seen his skill set to date and I don't see how it suddenly changes.Whos to say he cannot adjust his game to compensate not having super quick reflexes anymore and be less reliant on them?He's still young enough to be part of a rebuilt team if he chooses to stick around and we get our sh!t together.
and lose the loyalty bonuses ? Never going to happen, better to force the club to sell him by not signingShould hand in a transfer request then.
His recent form works in our favor.and lose the loyalty bonuses ? Never going to happen, better to force the club to sell him by not signing
He won't get a wage cut after moving for a small fee (if he moves now while having 1 year remaining on contract) or if he moves next year for free. And yes I agree it should be his last deal while on his peak so of course he would want the best possible contract.This argument works only if he takes a wage cut and goes to clubs like PSG, Juventus, Bayern, clubs where he is guaranteed to win trophies. I personally think it is about his age also, this extension could be his last big payday.
Ok I've had it confirmed by two others what tomorrow is about:
David De Gea has refused to sign a new deal and will leave.
I doubt I will get many more updates than this tomorrow. The meeting tomrrow is supposedly very much "Woodward, Ole and a couple of others".
Absolutely. Hopefully that's how this all pans out.Whos to say he cannot adjust his game to compensate not having super quick reflexes anymore and be less reliant on them?He's still young enough to be part of a rebuilt team if he chooses to stick around and we get our sh!t together.
How about one who just helped his team get promoted to the PL? Like this Henderson chap who happens to be a Utd player?Are there any brilliant keepers in the championship we can replace him with?
I don't mind having romero, Joel and him competing for a first team placeHow about one who just helped his team get promoted to the PL? Like this Henderson chap who happens to be a Utd player?
Get the best GK coach out there and let this kid have a go.
With the primary incentive for him staying here is us paying him £300k plus a week? If his heart isn’t in it anymore then it’s best for both parties we part ways now, while he still has a year left on his contract.Absolutely. Hopefully that's how this all pans out.
Yeah. Improve the defence and midfield and I'm happy to leave the goal keeping issue out of our transfer plans this season.I don't mind having romero, Joel and him competing for a first team place
Wonderful, pinning £16m plus wages per annum on hope.Absolutely. Hopefully that's how this all pans out.
He's done plenty, but he made a personal choice to refuse contracts put before him and bank on his abilities in return of a better deal.tHat DaYvuD Dgear CaN get LosT bcK tO SpAyn, WhAts He eVeR doNe foR uS?
