RedDevilRoshi
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Delighted we managed to get him signed on a new deal. Wasn’t expecting it to be 6 years tbh. Especially with Dean Henderson about to sign a new contract with ourselves.
The whole team was horrific at the end of season maybe that didn’t help him, who knows ? If the top coaches at one of the biggest clubs in the world think it was a blip and he’s over it and willing to give him a new contract then I’ll trust them as opposed to what people’s opinion are on here.It wasnt end of season. It was half a season and before Spurs, he wasnt special either. He was bang average for the most part of the season and horrific at the end.
His buddy GK coach is here as well. Maybe he needs a change of scenery, GK careers are not linear
Absolutely!£117m
But, take a breath, the flipside is DDG leaving for free next summer and us having to find a replacement.
Look at what Chelsea & Liverpool had to spend to recruite a top level keeper. Let's say we ended up paying £60m for someone who'd accept £250k a week.. 5 year contract...
My legs, and my mouth, are open, Dave.£117m
Henderson has time on his side. He'll have to play PL football for a couple of years before we see if he is ready for a top club at the age of 24. If he impresses enough on loan in the PL and has a better season than De Gea I see no reason why we can't have them compete next summer. Whoever makes the spot their own wins. We'll have no problems selling De Gea to Atletico Madrid, Real or even Juventus or PSG if it comes to that. We'll get a decent transfer fee too and he can take a wage cut and still be paid a lot. Unless he has a terrible season and can't catch a ball, but come on its still De Gea, he'll be mint this season.Think it’s a poor deal personally. Not that I don’t respect what he’s done, he’s been brilliant, but I don’t think you make such a commitment to a player who may be showing signs of not being as good anymore. He was poor last season, and was terrible in the World Cup just before that too.
This probably means we’ll sell Henderson to Sheffield this window then, as there is no point at all in him staying now.
That is only if you assume we would/should go for an expensive replacement. Maybe we got one in a year or two ready to take overAbsolutely!
Basically, United would be financially worse off not paying De Gea paying such a high salary.
It’s not that simple though. This will have a knock on effect on contracts for other players when the GK is getting paid such a ludicrous sum. We were far better of giving him a hefty signing on bonus and a lower salary. Much like Sanchez’s contract, this will cause a lot of issues when other players come to renew. Long term will be far more expensive than just signing another keeper.Absolutely!
Basically, United would be financially worse off not paying De Gea paying such a high salary.
Not a single club in the world would pay De Gea those wages, so no we wouldn’t be able to sell him. Much like how we’re unable to shift alexis right now.Henderson has time on his side. He'll have to play PL football for a couple of years before we see if he is ready for a top club at the age of 24. If he impresses enough on loan in the PL and has a better season than De Gea I see no reason why we can't have them compete next summer. Whoever makes their spot their own wins. We'll have no problems selling De Gea to Atletico Madrid, Real or even Juventus or PSG if it comes to that. We'll get a decent transfer fee to and he can take a wage cut and still be paid a lot. Unless he has a terrible season and can't catch a ball, but come on its still De Gea, he'll be mint this season.
It is a lot of money but the guy has earned it. He was not world class probably last year but was still a top keeper. I really rate Dean Henderson and I admire his stance on not wanting to be second choice, but if he is patient and goes on loan then he'll probably make it here in a couple of years. As for De Gea he wont be content with sitting here earning his money if he isn't playing, he'll take a wage cut and ask for a move. Sanchez had no history with the club, it is a different scenario, and De Gea will still be good enough for a few top clubs at 34-36 too probably.
I can’t see any scenario where a De Gea on a 6-year deal and Henderson manage to overlap. Even if Henderson does well this season, I don’t see any real competition between him and De Gea. Goalkeepers don’t really ‘compete’ in that sense.Henderson has time on his side. He'll have to play PL football for a couple of years before we see if he is ready for a top club at the age of 24. If he impresses enough on loan in the PL and has a better season than De Gea I see no reason why we can't have them compete next summer. Whoever makes their spot their own wins. We'll have no problems selling De Gea to Atletico Madrid, Real or even Juventus or PSG if it comes to that. We'll get a decent transfer fee to and he can take a wage cut and still be paid a lot. Unless he has a terrible season and can't catch a ball, but come on its still De Gea, he'll be mint this season.
It is a lot of money but the guy has earned it. He was not world class probably last year but was still a top keeper. I really rate Dean Henderson and I admire his stance on not wanting to be second choice, but if he is patient and goes on loan then he'll probably make it here in a couple of years. As for De Gea he wont be content with sitting here earning his money if he isn't playing, he'll take a wage cut and ask for a move. Sanchez had no history with the club, it is a different scenario, and De Gea will still be good enough for a few top clubs at 34-36 too probably.
He wasn't even the best keeper in the Premier League last year. The only stupidity I can see is your assumption that much of last year was just a blip. Hopefully you're right. If not, we've repeated our habit of getting a contract wrong.He's one of if not the best goal keepers in the world. He is 28 and we gave him a 5 +1 deal. Thank feck for that. we dont have to worry about his position till he's ready to retire. what was it supposed to be 2 year deal? Stop being stupid
He can take a pay cut if needs be. I don't think he'll be content to sit on the bench no matter how much he is earning. If he is playing well for three years then the deal was worth it as he would have moved elsewhere for free. I don't see many safe replacements we could have got without losing money and risking a loss in quality. Deal makes total sense.Not a single club in the world would pay De Gea those wages, so no we wouldn’t be able to sell him. Much like how we’re unable to shift alexis right now.
We'll I don't want him to!I can’t see any scenario where a De Gea on a 6-year deal and Henderson manage to overlap. Even if Henderson does well this season, I don’t see any real competition between him and De Gea. Goalkeepers don’t really ‘compete’ in that sense.
He is also yet to sign a deal in the first place so it may all be academic. I would want to sign a permanent deal with Sheffield off the back of this news if I were him.
Sure thing I'm with you there, but imagine having ~600k worth a week on the bench, between only two players? Pretty poor way to run a club if so.In the unlikely scenario none of PSG/Juve/Real will be willing to take him off our hands there's always the bench. The best player plays and if that means benching DDG for Henderson I'm all for it.
Why do you think games amid of contract negotiation won't affect a player's performance? It always does that's why national coach forbid players to talk to their agent or prospective clubs while on duty. If I was DDG I would think about whether I should live next to Neymar but he is such a cnt and how to stop his shot, even though the incoming striker is not Neywar. I would think about whether I should drive a German car or a French car, I would think about whether I should have a 9 rooms mansion since my girlfriend will now be living with me, although she would probably spends 10 months on the road.....This genuinely baffles me when people say it.
You realise that he's not the first footballer in history to be negotiating a new contract whilst still having to perform don't you?
How is the contract negotiations an excuse for those string of errors?
(Ive asked the question so many times that I'm almost bored of it but nobody has ever really came up with an answer so why not go again).
If he, or any player, can't put thoughts about something like a new contract to the back of their mind for a few weeks and concentrate on the job at hand, which at the time was getting us champions league football, then that's a massive failure on their part and not an excuse.
I genuinely cannot think of any other scenario where a footballer's errors (and there were many) were basically excused because by fans because they think he should be getting paid more.
As I said before, is it any wonder we end up massively overpaying our players when fans have this attitude?
That's also assuming we don't do a Bravo and sign a dud and end up having to find another during that time. Signing DDG for another 6 years keeps him well out of reach of those scumbags in Madrid, leaves us one less thing to worry about and enables De Gea to focus on what he does best. It's a no-brainer and a signal of intent to current and potential players.Let me do some simple math for the folks that are incapable.
117m for 6 seasons of a DDG at his absolute prime years.
Let’s say nah thanks we’re going to find another keeper - great now to get a keeper of DDGs quality will cost 60-70m
Then let’s say we REALLY feck that keeper over and manage to sign him on 200k a week. Over 6 years that’s ~60m
So it would cost 120-130m over 6 years to replace DDG
Are you mad?
This is brilliant at 18m a year.
Yep. I'm not sure whether there's just a very vocal minority or there is actually a significant number of people that now doubt his class, but the most reputable ranking of keepers for the last 5 years (IFFHS) has had in the top five in 4 of the last 5 years, with him dropping out for the first time last year (presumably due to the WC horror show). There can't be any doubt he's been one of the best keepers in the world this decade, regardless of how people want to quibble over the specific ranking.People saying he's declining at 28 years old... Keepers usually rather enter their best years in their late 20s, not their decline. Not to mention he's been saving the team's ass for at least 5 years now. If there's anyone who deserves that wage from our team, it's him.
Who's going to pay that high a wage for a goalie? He will be deadwood in about 3-4 yrs time when his physical dexterity starts to fade.If Henderson is as good as they say maybe we can look at selling De Gea in one or two years for a huge transfer fee.
This contract secures that.
This is ridiculous. Why do people believe as soon as you hit 30 your body falls apart? Goal keepers tend to enter their prime post 30. That’s what this contract reflects.Who's going to pay that high a wage for a goalie? He will be deadwood in about 3-4 yrs time when his physical dexterity starts to fade.
The one man army..You HAVE seen him play, right?
If football was the shite military metaphor that I'm going to use now, Schmeichel would have been a General, VDS was that Colonel type from Rambo, Stepney is the guy in the corner who's retired but always has a solution to stop the Russians and De Gea is Jason Bourne - the one man army.