Just out of courisity who would you like us to get for our DM spot or do you think McTomminey got that nailed down for the future?Matic is the reason why we are so easily bypassed in midfield. Today, we simply didn't have a defensive midfielder. Sort out our DM and we can then afford to play someone like Neves, who puts in a shift anyway.
Maddison in the advanced role, feeding an attack of Lingard, rashford and zaha. Jones, smalling, wan-bisaka and Shaw at the back, Henderson in goal. #BrexitMeansBrexitGet him. Him and McTomminey in midfield should give us the needed tenacity and work rate we need. Then we can even afford play an "artist" alongside them.
Definitely. Don't think Noble was much worse. Pretty neck and neck for them being the most impressive on the pitchNoble was a close second. The two of them bossed it and were unlucky to end up on the losing side.
Thats exactly what we need. Players who do the dirty work that the "star players" are lackingMust admit I rarely pay full attention when I watch United games. Having said that, I saw nothing of note coming from Rice. We do not need more unremarkable players.
I'm Irish, I should hate him. He was head and shoulders above our midfield in all aspects of the game today.We need to be aiming for more technical quality in a midfielder given what he would cost. Good performance today but nothing groundbreaking, don't understand heap of praises being showered upon him? Pretty sure if he wasn't English this thread wouldn't see this much activity.
That could work too but I feel like both McT and Rice playing together would be too defensive.McTominay
Not difficult given how crap we were today. Having said that, given our formation and lack of a proper DM both Fred and Pogba played well today.I'm Irish, I should hate him. He was head and shoulders above our midfield in all aspects of the game today.
Naa mate we need a destroyer someone who can snuff out attacks and shield the defence. Rice would be perfect for that role.We need to be aiming for more technical quality in a midfielder given what he would cost. Good performance today but nothing groundbreaking, don't understand heap of praises being showered upon him? Pretty sure if he wasn't English this thread wouldn't see this much activity.
No, they didnt. We made ourselves very easy to play against, thats why West Ham dominated us and had good chancesNot difficult given how crap we were today. Having said that, given our formation and lack of a proper DM both Fred and Pogba played well today.
We shouldn't need to do dirty work. We need mobile, intelligent players with an eye for a pass. He isn't terrible but I wouldn't have him over someone like Rodri simply because he's British.Thats exactly what we need. Players who do the dirty work that the "star players" are lacking
He has been impressive all season though, class performance against Arsenal too.Not difficult given how crap we were today. Having said that, given our formation and lack of a proper DM both Fred and Pogba played well today.
I wouldnt either but Rodri is much harder to get. And Rodri does a good amount of that dirty work.We shouldn't need to do dirty work. We need mobile, intelligent players with an eye for a pass. He isn't terrible but I wouldn't have him over someone like Rodri simply because he's British.
Rice put in a proper defensive midfield performance today though?Not difficult given how crap we were today. Having said that, given our formation and lack of a proper DM both Fred and Pogba played well today.
It's dependant on what happens with Herrera. Someone like Weigl would be my thinking.Just out of courisity who would you like us to get for our DM spot or do you think McTomminey got that nailed down for the future?
Thank feck someone has pointed this out. His positional sense and maturity are fantastic for his age. Nothing seems to faze him.What people don't keep in mind whilst calling him an average midfielder is the kid is 20. Freaking 20 and he plays like hes a seasoned veteran. Like someone said earlier, he will be amazing for us with Carrick coaching him. He's got what it takes to make the step up for us.
There were a few situations where it was more his desire and speed that allowed his interception rather than sloppy passing. Most notably in the two times against Fred and Martial.Was he really that good today? I think our inept passing was more responsible for the balls he won than whatever defensive skills he has.
In case you are accusing me of nationalism... I'm German. If I had a natiolist agend I would recommend to buy Weigl and Havertz...Maddison in the advanced role, feeding an attack of Lingard, rashford and zaha. Jones, smalling, wan-bisaka and Shaw at the back, Henderson in goal. #BrexitMeansBrexit
I don't think he is defensively strong enough tbh. Dortmund brought in Witsel and Dealany this season to address that problem but just Weigl in there wouldn't look much better than we do with Matic right now since he has about the same mobility and pace as Matic.It's dependant on what happens with Herrera. Someone like Weigl would be my thinking.
You obviously haven't seen much of Weigl then.It's dependant on what happens with Herrera. Someone like Weigl would be my thinking.
Can't agree with that. On the ball he's on another level to Matic currently, and I think you're underestimating just how immobile Matic has become.I don't think he is defensively strong enough tbh. Dortmund brought in Witsel and Dealany this season to address that problem but just Weigl in there wouldn't look much better than we do with Matic right now since he has about the same mobility and pace as Matic.
Ok.You obviously haven't seen much of Weigl then.
They play in midfield and are young and that's all they have in common.Genuinely fail to see what all the hype is about with this player (average at best imo)
I’ve seen players of similar age like Ruben Neves destroy him in the midfield
A poor mans McTominay
Granted he could barely be as bad as Matic but remember that he is having a hard time breaking into the first team of Dortmund this season so it's not as if he is doing brilliantly right now. I also think a midfield with Weigl + Pogba would still be very vulnerable defensively.Can't agree with that. On the ball he's on another level to Matic currently, and I think you're underestimating just how immobile Matic has become.
Ok, fair enough, but I still think combining Mctominay and Rice would be far too passive.Granted he could barely be as bad as Matic but remember that he is having a hard time breaking into the first team of Dortmund this season so it's not as if he is doing brilliantly right now. I also think a midfield with Weigl + Pogba would still be very vulnerable defensively.
If Weigl can get back to his previous form he would be a very good option.You obviously haven't seen much of Weigl then.