Marcus
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Matic usually starts the season like a house on fire. Then gets burnt out from being overplayed. I would definitely keep him and use him sparingly. He has been great for us when fresh.
Maybe there's a pattern there and he'll be gold next season.Gold one season and utter garbage the next.
Last four seasons: gold (won title with Chelsea), garbage (mourinho sacked), gold (finished second), garbage (mourinho sacked).
Impossible to trust someone at that age who can literally give a full season of 4/10 performances.
In his first season with us he was only 'gold' for the first three or so months. After that his form was on a steady slide and he was fairly poor in the second half of the season.Gold one season and utter garbage the next.
Last four seasons: gold (won title with Chelsea), garbage (mourinho sacked), gold (finished second), garbage (mourinho sacked).
Impossible to trust someone at that age who can literally give a full season of 4/10 performances.
Yeah, he gets way too much stick on here. He's not the problem people seem to make out. Very good player.Matic usually starts the season like a house on fire. Then gets burnt out from being overplayed. I would definitely keep him and use him sparingly. He has been great for us when fresh.
Why exactly do you have so much faith in a slow declining 31yr old CDM with average ball playing skills? He's not going to roll back the years miraculouslyStill believe Matic should go into our midfield. Too many prople writing him off!
Agreed. No way should he play in Europa and he should miss a number of games, but he can definitely still do a job for us when fresh. The criticism of him on here is somewhat over the top.Don’t overplay him and keep him fresh. A fresh Matic can still do a job, a tired one is a liability.
Not sure about that, he was downright dreadful last season numberous times.Yeah, he gets way too much stick on here. He's not the problem people seem to make out. Very good player.
Yep. We could do with a fresh Matic for experience. He's very good and had a decent spell when Ole first took over and also for the first half of the season before last. We just overplay him.Don’t overplay him and keep him fresh. A fresh Matic can still do a job, a tired one is a liability.
Well said. He's a very decent CDM, but you can tell when he's playing too much.Don’t overplay him and keep him fresh. A fresh Matic can still do a job, a tired one is a liability.
We need a defensive midfielder. I think we should sign one. But in case we don’t, i dont think matic should be an automatic starter. Mctominay was very good during our winning spell last season. He put in very good performances as a starteIs it fair to say that it would be pretty unfair on McTominay if he was dropped to make way for Matic when he comes back?
Our midfield last night - well two of them anyway - looked a lot livelier and effective than it has for a little while, I can't help but feel this was down to the absence of Matic slowing everything down.
Yeah, he gets way too much stick on here. He's not the problem people seem to make out. Very good player.
Yep. We could do with a fresh Matic for experience. He's very good and had a very good spell when Ole first took over and a very good spell for the first half of the season before last. We just overplay him.
Agree with all. He's not as bad as the Caf and other fans make him out to be.Well said. He's a very decent CDM, but you can tell when he's playing too much.
Pretty much all of McTominay's good performances came in the Herrera role. The times he played played more of the Matic role he was generally disappointing (although he only played there a few times from memory).We need a defensive midfielder. I think we should sign one. But in case we don’t, i dont think matic should be an automatic starter. Mctominay was very good during our winning spell last season. He put in very good performances as a starte
Don't forget Perisic. We'd be sitting here now going into 2020 with Lukaku William Perisic front 3 with Matic Dier and Herrera CM (Virus sold)Worst signing ever. What a waste of 45m. Youri Tielemans is going to join Leicester for the same price. Matic was too old and only played well for the first half of his first season. He is not fit for purpose. He is responsible for many of our midfield problems. I would rather see Mctominay and Andreas start ahead of him. He is too slow.
Mourinho wanted some absolutely awful players. Glad he didn't get Eric Dier and Willian. Mourinho was hell bent on increasing the average age our our squad with players in decline.
It's a fair point. Matic is stlll very good, albeit too slow and static sometimes, which gets us into trouble.Yeah, he gets way too much stick on here. He's not the problem people seem to make out. Very good player.
I think you're onto something here. Although maybe it was the manager's not having confidence in their other options sending out a half fit player.Not sure about that, he was downright dreadful last season numberous times.
Saying that though Mourinho definitely overplayed him, Solskjaer also rushed him back after PSG too quickly IMO.
Perhaps he isn't always truthful about how fit he is? he often looks like he's carrying an injury.
He is a problem for now. Literally lining up with Matic in midfield makes us average. If we are losing PP then it is even more urgent. What games does he even stand up in? Has 5 weeks a season where he isn't TOTAL shite and Chelsea offloaded him for many reasons and we are experiencing them. I'm deadly serious. Spurs just signed a dynamic, technically decent but also physical specimen in the 20 something Ndombele and we gonna compete with dead men like Matic? I don't even remember him last having an acceptable season but a las, United don't learn and will try to compete and give it a real go with vastly inferior personnel....We have bigger fish to fry this window. Matic is a problem for next summer.
Getting Nainngolan is asking for trouble apart from doing inter a big favourMatic is too slow for the new Ole style,ship him off to Inter and lets have Nainngolan for a couple of seasons to educate our up and coming youth.
I don't think it has to do with his age but how his managers don't wanna give him a break, play him every game and never sub him. That's the recipe for a disaster.Personanllly think Matic is another great example of why you don't spend lots of money on players around 28 becuase a you only get a few years out of them before you have to replace them.
Theirs probably an element of that of him playing too much, but thats part of been wanting to be a key part of a big clubs team. Simply put players struggle to do it when they get to around 30, most players generally loose a yard of pace around this age, no question this has happened to Matic.I don't think it has to do with his age but how his managers don't wanna give him a break, play him every game and never sub him. That's the recipe for a disaster.