calodo2003
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They lied to the FBI as well, the FBI don't like that, ask Mike FlynnSurely the staffers have only been charged as leverage against them so they flip and testify against Trump to make prosecution case against him stronger
They could if so many people could resist the urge to say highly defamatory things. Doubly so when a court case could be prejudiced.To me, from the perspective of America’s idea of freedom of speech, it is absurd that ongoing cases involving footballers cannot be openly discussed on this forum.
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I think you missed my point there. The absurdity for me comes from the stark contrast in levels of free speech on a topic like that, not from what people might say. I know they’ll say bad stuff if it were discussed with the Caf registered in the UK or in the USA.They could if so many people could resist the urge to say highly defamatory things. Doubly so when a court case could be prejudiced.
Face eating leopards & all that.Pickens has been had
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Free speech, like everything, requires limits. You shouldn't be able say anything about anyone, no matter the truth or otherwise of what you say. If you damage someone with what you say, with no provable truth, then you deserve to pay for that.I think you missed my point there. The absurdity for me comes from the stark contrast in levels of free speech on a topic like that, not from what people might say. I know they’ll say bad stuff if it were discussed with the Caf registered in the UK or in the USA.
That’s cool and all, I’m just saying that the UK’s bar for that is much, much lower than the one I’m used to. It’s not an argument, just an observation.Free speech, like everything, requires limits. You shouldn't be able say anything about anyone, no matter the truth or otherwise of what you say. If you damage someone with what you say, with no provable truth, then you deserve to pay for that.
Yep.That said UK defamation law, with an assumption of guilt, is used by the wealthy to protect themselves from criticism by those who can't afford to go to court. And that is too far the other way imo.
Non-UK forum? I don't know where the Caf is hosted but Ireland has incredibly close legal and economic ties with the UK...The thing I don't understand is why do we care about UK law? I'm not a UK citizen posting on a non UK forum yet for some reason their weird absurd laws still play a role, because? Brexit means brexit goddamn.
And yet Ireland is still non-UK. It's probably hosted there, though.Non-UK forum? I don't know where the Caf is hosted but Ireland has incredibly close legal and economic ties with the UK...
Maybe, but clearly the laws are why the forum rules are the way they are.And also, forget the laws, maybe not defaming someone without evidence is just a good way to live and do business.
Last time I checked we cared about UK law the most for good reason as the Caf is hosted there. It isn't so much that we fear being directly responsible for posters' defamatory comments but more the time, stress and cost of dealing with legal threats and lawyers. Plus we'd hate to have to pass posters details to lawyers, as may well happen if they get a court order.Non-UK forum? I don't know where the Caf is hosted but Ireland has incredibly close legal and economic ties with the UK...
And also, forget the laws, maybe not defaming someone without evidence is just a good way to live and do business.
All good reasons.Last time I checked we cared about UK law the most for good reason as the Caf is hosted there. It isn't so much that we fear being directly responsible for posters' defamatory comments but more the time, stress and cost of dealing with legal threats and lawyers. Plus we'd hate to have to pass posters details to lawyers, as may well happen if they get a court order.
I thought it was hosted in Ireland, who have a bit of a history on whether they are in the UK or not... Didn't know it was hosted in the UK.Non-UK forum? I don't know where the Caf is hosted but Ireland has incredibly close legal and economic ties with the UK...
Uk defamation laws are there to protect a certain class of people. Open any British paper and you instantly know it's never been about defamation in general.And also, forget the laws, maybe not defaming someone without evidence is just a good way to live and do business.
That's as may be but two wrongs don't make a right. Defaming everyone isn't necessarily a solution to Britain's class problems.I thought it was hosted in Ireland, who have a bit of a history on whether they are in the UK or not... Didn't know it was hosted in the UK.
Uk defamation laws are there to protect a certain class of people. Open any British paper and you instantly know it's never been about defamation in general.
BTW the last time I checked bit wasn't being a smart arse. I genuinely meant it was hosted in the UK last time I knew/asked, which was a while ago.All good reasons.
And people question why Aliens would visit us? We're fascinating. Trump supporters should be dissected and studied, intriguing creatures.So lads, Trump
Trump supporters should be dissected and eaten or worn as clothes, repugnant creatures.
That fellow has a funny way of speaking. Also Trump.So lads, Trump
He sounds like a text to speech synthesizer reading out text that has no punctuation in it.That fellow has a funny of speaking. Also Trump.
The cabinet members and whoever else are just hedging themselves for the election cycle / criminal trials though right? They'll immediately fight to be the first up his colon, should he actually get through this next year.I agree. By Hannibal, Buffalo Bill or The Red Dragon......
Seriously though, it's gone beyond any normal semblance of sanity now. Especially with 40 of his own cabinet members refusing to endorce him. The obvious reply I expected and wasn't disappointed as I think it's the only one I've seen...
Oh, but that's because they are RINO'S or the Deep State and scared of Trump.
When confronted with... But I thought he only hires the best people? I just got either blocked, insulted or told I was spreading misinformation and they really are endorsing him it's just the media spreading lies again
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The threats will only get worse as the GOP in Congress line up to threaten, harass and intimidate the prosecutors and witnesses on Trump's behalf. On one hand these threats are not at all surprising. A black woman prosecutor in Georgia daring to investigate and hold their orange messiah accountable. It leans right into their underlying issue and the reason they invaded the capital on Jan 6th in the first place. All these uppity black and brown people they detest in Georgia and Michigan who dare to vote against them not knowing their place.District Attorney Fani Willis warned Fulton County commissioners this weekend they should "stay alert" over the next month, according to emails obtained by CBS News.
She pointed to a threatening email she received last week with a subject line reading, "Fani Willis = Corrupt N*****." The body of the email said, "You are going to fail, you Jim Crow Democrat whore."
Willis said the message was "pretty typical" of what her office has been receiving and said she is aware of "equally ignorant voicemails" that have come into the county office and to her own office. She said she expects more over the next month. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution first reported Wills' warning to the county commissioners.
"I took an oath. No one other than the citizens of Fulton County put me in this seat. I have every intention of doing my job. Please make decisions that keep your staff safe," Willis wrote.
does he ever stop ?
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The phrase "your favourite president, me" never fails to amuse me.