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https://www.theguardian.com/games/2023/mar/31/e3-2023-cancelled-video-game-industry-expo
I think it's time to have a funeral
I think it's time to have a funeral
I hear you. I go back even further though I remember getting all the Playstation magazines the month after E3 and scouring through all the previews and being hyper excited about it.It was pretty much expected with developers and Sony / MS / Nintendo having their own livestreams. And the game awards too. E3 lost its relevance some time ago.
I still look badly fondly on it. There was a time when that one event was the most important days of the year in gaming. Used to love downloading all the clips of the trailers on my slow as feck dial up connection.
I am the gameWhat games do you even play Horsey? I may have missed it but I rarely see you in the gaming threads
What did he mean by this???I am the game
That's he's Triple H?What did he mean by this???
HHHorsechokerThat's he's Triple H?
Underchoker sounds better.HHHorsechoker
Horse choking simulatorWhat games do you even play Horsey? I may have missed it but I rarely see you in the gaming threads
Sorry mate, no more horsing around.Can you guys be serious please? This is a horsechoker thread, not some spurious meme club.
With no PlayStation, Xbox, Nintendo and lesser extent Unisoft it's hardly surprising.
Do those work as well in gaining traction though? The companies must have run the numbers, but I know I'd keep an eye on announcements at E3 as I knew it was the event of the year and most things worth playing would be announced during it. I can't be bothered to watch all of the specific company ones so mainly pickup information about games from a couple of forums.E3 is mostly only good for those awkward, unscripted moments that make you laugh. These days I think publishers and devs just announce stuff when they feel like it, thanks to social media.
Sony have their State of Plays. Nintendo have their Directs. Capcom have their Spotlights. Valve just casually announce their stuff with no fanfare.
I’m guessing Keighley is still doing his Summer Game Fest which is the closest thing to 2010s E3.
I think if you’re one of the big players like Sony, Nintendo or Valve, you’ll still get the traction. People are becoming more aware of these quarterly (on average) showcases from Sony and Nintendo (not sure if Microsoft have one), and rumours pop up in gaming media about stuff and how something will be formally announced at an upcoming stream.Do those work as well in gaining traction though? The companies must have run the numbers, but I know I'd keep an eye on announcements at E3 as I knew it was the event of the year and most things worth playing would be announced during it. I can't be bothered to watch all of the specific company ones so mainly pickup information about games from a couple of forums.
I think the closest thing to 2010s E3 is probably PAX: https://www.paxsite.com/ which was made by the guys who do penny-arcade.net after E3 stopped gamers going.E3 is mostly only good for those awkward, unscripted moments that make you laugh. These days I think publishers and devs just announce stuff when they feel like it, thanks to social media.
Sony have their State of Plays. Nintendo have their Directs. Capcom have their Spotlights. Valve just casually announce their stuff with no fanfare.
I’m guessing Keighley is still doing his Summer Game Fest which is the closest thing to 2010s E3.
What do you mean by "stopped gamers going"? Are you talking about when they stepped up industry credential checks?I think the closest thing to 2010s E3 is probably PAX: https://www.paxsite.com/ which was made by the guys who do penny-arcade.net after E3 stopped gamers going.
Yeah I think that's probably what I mean. It got taken over by just any old person attending for a bit, and then they made it a bit more strict. That's all I recall to be honestWhat do you mean by "stopped gamers going"? Are you talking about when they stepped up industry credential checks?
Yeah I attended a few times in the early 00's and it was great times, but then they went into the "publisher" realm and tried to go all corporate. It was always an industry event, but most of us who went were developers and gamers showing off to each other and teasing things coming backed by the hardware guys showing us new toys and classic presentations. Then they backtracked and tried to make it a full on tech expo.Yeah I think that's probably what I mean. It got taken over by just any old person attending for a bit, and then they made it a bit more strict. That's all I recall to be honest
To be fair I never really had an interest in E3 outside of Halo announcements in those days.
Yep. The hayday of trade shows was pre-early internet. Mid 90's-mid 00's. They had plenty of cheesy presentations, but it was about fun and not simply the buzz words. Hell, even Miyamoto showed up at one point and then gave an impromptu lecture on game design just because. Not planned, nothing stupid, just pure gamers talking games.I also believe that these big, formal presentations that were all the rave in the 2010s can negatively affect people’s perception of the companies and therefore affect sales performance.
Ubisoft and Bethesda particularly used to put on some grandiose E3 presentations, and people used to make fun of them when the games failed to deliver or they took themselves way too seriously. Ubisoft are the kings of bullshotting and scripted gameplay trailers. Bethesda never deliver on lofty promises they initially made or introduce things that annoy their community (namely things to discourage third party mods to games, which have prolonged the lifespan of their games).
One of the nicest things I've heard about the pre-modern internet E3 is that they used to invite random employees of Gamestop or wherever to attend who would go on to tell their customers about all the new games coming out. Those people eventually got replaced with gaming journalists and finally influencers/streamers, which is probably when the fun of E3 died completely.Yep. The hayday of trade shows was pre-early internet. Mid 90's-mid 00's. They had plenty of cheesy presentations, but it was about fun and not simply the buzz words. Hell, even Miyamoto showed up at one point and then gave an impromptu lecture on game design just because. Not planned, nothing stupid, just pure gamers talking games.
It's true, not just them, but up and coming journalist students and all that too. Proper gamers wanting to make a career in it in any way. ECTS used to let us sneak in if we had any kind of gaming presence. I got to my very first one because I made a homebrew demo that got into the Playstation magazine and they told me to make up a company name and I'd have a proper pass. When I got there, too young to be travelling to London by myself for the first time, I had an official badge. They were absolutely brilliant with me and everyone else there. Of course being that young and having page 3 girls walking around helped too I guess! I still have a picture somewhere with Leilani (google her) in an England football kit for something like Fifa or that year's pro. E3 always needed more credentials (I remember my first one, the company I worked for gave us such a lecture on behaviour then when we got there...wow did that go out the window, including the heads!), but they'd still invite people to it from "outside". They were never exclusive in terms of keeping people out, they were just picky about it being about the games/hardware in the early days and who came in being a part of that. That all changed in the mid 00's.One of the nicest things I've heard about the pre-modern internet E3 is that they used to invite random employees of Gamestop or wherever to attend who would go on to tell their customers about all the new games coming out. Those people eventually got replaced with gaming journalists and finally influencers/streamers, which is probably when the fun of E3 died completely.
Ironically, the company that the people in this video made ("Easy Allies") seems to be one step behind E3 in shutting down. At the risk of appearing like an old man shaking his fist at clouds, why does everything fun get ruined?As soon as they started rolling out celebrities on to the stages, and pop stars like Bobby Dipshit wandered on to talk about their new album whilst some shit dancing game logo was behind them we all knew this was coming.
At least we'll always have the memories.