This twat is worse than Trump and Corden combined.
Ed Woodward | Groundhog Day Edition
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Rojo signed a new contract after assurances from Ole he was an important part of the team. So did Jones. We all said it at the time these players should never have been given new contracts. Same with 80m Maguire and a rightback that can't attack. He's now faced with lying in his own mess. I agree it's the board's fault as they should never have allowed him to make those decisions
He can't get a sack, doubt that Glazers could count 3 of our players by name or that they know where we are on the table.
This is their mate who helped them to own the club. And he sends them good/solid financial reports from time to time.
Rojo signed a new deal while Jose was manager.
Jones signed a new deal while Ole was interim manager.
Who gives out these contracts? A lot of the time it doesn't seem like the head coach.
Lets not exaggerate now. Corden is way worse.
Is dembele injury prone or is injury prone to dembele?The back-up plan was the injury prone French winger Dembele.
you're right. Rather it was Ole who convinced Rojo to stay the subsequent summer
If you want to say Ole had no say in Jones contract then I don't know what to tell you. Jones had been phased out of the team when Ole came and heavily featured him in the starting xi
What's all the complaining about? He signed 5 players: Pellistri, Traore, Cavani, Van De Beek and Telles.
Ole wanted a CB, though? Probably wants a DM too, but Matic and Fred should work for another season.
Neither of these are correct.
God knows there are enough things to criticise Ole for, no need to just start inventing new stuff.
I genuinely don't understand signing Pellistri and Diallo on the last day of the transfer window. Why didn't we have these transfers wrapped up earlier given they're clearly players for the future and not for now?
Seriously, can someone please explain this logic to me? Where's the plan? I haven't got a f*cking clue.
Seriously, can someone please explain this logic to me? Where's the plan? I haven't got a f*cking clue.
Its the only thing he understandsI want Ed out, but this is too much guys...
At least that's what Rojo says he heard. Ole's selections, and the fact Rojo nearly moved to Everton, don't suggest Rojo was a part of his plans at any stage.
What's all the complaining about? He signed 5 players: Pellistri, Traore, Cavani, Van De Beek and Telles.
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Fair point, those players should immensely improve the starting XI. City and Livers watch out!
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Fair point, those players should immensely improve the starting XI. City and Livers watch out!
Is this incompetence or willful sabotage from Woodward towards the manager? It sometimes feels like he’s purposely working against the team.
He has a wife and kids, ffs. That alone should mean it's bang out of order it is to rock up at his house to try and intimidate him.
This is spot on. All of our players are commodities in the literal sense. It’s much more sense financially to retain as an asset then to let them go for peanuts or god forbid - free.
We’ve absolutely no intention or running this football club anything other than a money making machine for the Glazers. If some success comes along the way then that’s a bonus.
Yes, beat him up and I am sure he will change his way.
What do Ed and Glazers love? Money. You restrict them of that. They ain’t going to change because a few rowdy twats are outside their house.
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Well it definitely wasn’t Jose. I can’t imagine Jose wanting a new defender in Maguire whilst being happy Rojo was getting a new deal. Ole wouldn’t have been even consulted about Jones.
You probably didn't even know who 3 of them are few days ago.
I agree. Unfortunately it could turn very ugly and in the end it won't solve anything.
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This post is such a perfect example of the myopia in the fanbase that Woodward and the Glazers have hid behind for the last decade.
It's all the manager's fault. No need to do any structural analysis. What do you mean Ole wasn't at the club when Rojo's contract was extended? He's still to blame!
At some point don't you want to get off the managerial merry-go-round and turn that dissatisfaction towards the people who have been a constant through the last 4 managers failures?
Point is they were all complicit and no one is spared of blame. It's not an either/or situation for some of us. That Jones contract in particular was a trainwreck coming in slow motion (excl the Rojo deal I've been corrected on)
No, your point was clearly that Ole was an idiot for giving useless players new contracts. When that didn't stick, the point changed.
It's been a decent window. Van de Beek, Telles and Cavani instantly improve us.
Facundo, Willy Kamwala and Amad Diallo added to the young talent we already have in Garnacho, Charlie McNeil, Teden Mengi, James Garner, Hannibal Mejbri looks like some top young players coming through.
Facundo, Willy Kamwala and Amad Diallo added to the young talent we already have in Garnacho, Charlie McNeil, Teden Mengi, James Garner, Hannibal Mejbri looks like some top young players coming through.
Agreed, violence will solve nothing. The only way to hurt people like that is though their pocketbooks. I cancelled my MUTV subscription , unsubbed from all MUFC social media accounts and will not buy any merch but our fan base is so big and diverse I suspect only relegation would get us rid of the Glazers at this point as it doesnt matter how the club has been doing ...they always collect their dividends.
The notion that the Glazers will 'sack' Woodward or that he should resign is absurd: as far as they are concerned he is running a profitable business for them.
If our goal is trying to achieve top 4 then it is not the worst window in the world, glad you have come to terms with that.
The sooner our fan base realizes that we arent in the business of winning titles anymore the less stressful itll be for us.
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I included Maguire and AWB for a reason, to highlight he has also been a part of the mess/shoddy business. Getting Rojo wrong didn't change anything. I even owned up to the mistake once corrected (twice in fact). I gave 4 instances and one was wrong
Signing four players on the last day of the window like we have, I'm sorry... but that's just f*cking appalling. Why wait to sign those younger lads until today? Why not sign Telles or Cavani much earlier in the window, both of whom were evidently available and getable? It just smacks of desperation, trying to appease fans with a flurry of signings.
You say decent, I say shambles.
We don't know the facts. Maybe Cavani was demanding 300,000 a week 2 months ago, but dropped down to 200,000 a week last minute when he had no other takers. Maybe the prices for all the players we signed were higher until the last minute and then dropped a bit. We don't know. Did Barca and Real Madrid sign anyone of note? The pandemic has had a big impact on some clubs.
We've seen enough over the years to know that the people running the club don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Ed loves fans that post like you, keep it up! Real Top Red stuff
Is that you Ed?
The issue (for them) is that it isn't as profitable as it should be.
For the amount we've spent we should be competing and winning trophies. That would bring in more money. We should be in the CL every season. That would bring in more money. That would bring even more media attention than we already have. Those things together should allow us to increase our sponsorship revenue further.
Alternatively, if we're 'happy' with our performance on the field then we have overspent by £200-400 million in the transfer-market. With better management we could have been in the exact same position with half the expenditure. Not to mention our massively bloated wage bill that is unnecessarily costing us 10's of millions of pounds every year.
Even if you look at it all purely from a business point of view we aren't doing as well as what we should be. Yes we are making a profit, but it's at least £100m less profit (almost certainly more) than what we should have made in that time frame. That's why it blows my mind that the Glazer's don't seem to care. Either they are terrible businessmen living off of their old man's money or the main two (Joel and Avram) are getting too involved themselves and their own personal opinions are getting in the way.
Just not any of our Premier League rivals apparently.
I made my bed with this a long time ago. LVG tried to tell us, then Mourinho, now we're seeing it unfold with Ole too. We might win a few trophies along the way to top 4, Europa or FA cup etc but until the Glazers go or the structure changes, we're finished competing at the top.
They wised up with Ole. They don't want any ambitious managers like Mourinho or LVG, interfering with their plans. Only Ole i guess didn't believe they would do it to him too. Soon no ambitious manager will ever want anything to do with us, and the final nail in the coffin will be dealt.
I think that's about the size of it
like any company that floats itself on the stock market, leaves itself vulnerable to be bought by owners that their plans might be different to those who support it. It is there's to do what they want with it and no different than the blue side of the city. Does anyone think they are Man City fans? The thing is once they are spending the money, most fans aren't interested in where it comes from as it's all about winning. If we were winning, Glazers and Woodward would be a whisper.
LVG, Jose and Ole knew what they were letting themselves in for. Just looked at what SAF had to deal with with the owners would have told them everything. Man Utd is currency and those that owning it as well as work for it know the individual benefits for being part of it. LVG was no longer relevant, Jose star was fading fast and Ole knew this was an opportunity he would have never got without his relationship and history with the club. None of them were naive to the task in hand. If Ole was sacked tmw, there will be a long list of managers that will be willing to take the risk in order to use the opportunity to be relevant on the football world stage again.