Eden Hazard
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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"Don't you worry Eden.....He's good but he's not YOU, You can have the # 10 shirt"
"Of Course YOU can release the news via your twitter account, I know we don't EVER do that but YOU can !"
Added the cost, for context..
Didn't half his goals this year come from penalties? If he goes to Chelsea then that more or less sums the fella up. Complete cnut.
We will sign Kagawa it had united written all over it and I'll be pleased wih the business.
We will sign Kagawa it had united written all over it and I'll be pleased wih the business.
I'll give it five months before he declares he would 'love' to play for Real.
Fergie out
I bet Joe Cole had a say in Hazard's move to Chelsea..
He's going to shag Terry's wife.
How many twitter followers has he just lost?
Interesting that the papers are reporting it as a done deal based on a single possibly cryptic tweet with no confirmation from Lille, Chelsea or that players agent. He may well have chosen Chelsea but surely even journalists need more before reporting a story as fact? Surely they could have hacked his phone to confirm?
Id10t
Says it all really.
They'll finish third but that's all I can see. And that could be more down to Spurs and Newcastle declining when they lose a couple of their better players / not meeting the heights of last season and Arsenal of course being shit when RvP doesn't have a great season.
They're probably going to have to get rid of Bosingwa, Kalou, and Malouda. They'll need a top right back to sign for them but they might not require another striker. They could possibly do with a reserve wide player unless Malouda stays. Other than that I can't really see anyone else leaving or them strengthening in any other area.
As the above formations suggest:
Torres
Mata Hazard Marin
Mata Hazard Marin
They have Sturridge and Ramires (and Malouda) to cover the wider positions or Hazard might go on the wing during games when it isn't working. Lukaku is also there as the other centre forward (although Sturridge will argue he should be fighting Torres for the starting place in the middle). Then there's still Lampard, Essien, Meireles, Mikel, Romeu and a few others to fit into central midfield (which will now be two places).
Ivanovic will cover at RB if they sign a new one, but he'll probably want to challenge for the centreback places with Terry, Cahill, and Luiz.
I can't see Chelsea replacing many of these players so it becomes near enough the same team that finished sixth last season. Albeit they had great cup success, but I strongly believe that it was a one-off. They won't win the Champions League like that again and definitely won't win the Premier League like that.
They also don't even have a manager yet.
3rd and no trophies is where my money would go (unless they take the Carling Cup seriously).
As I said earlier in the week, gone are the days when the charm of a club or the history of the manager, or the best "career choice" matter. All that matters is CL football & chance of trophies, after that it's money that wins.
We're on a level below CFC and City, if they want a player that we want, we aint getting him. Let's just hope they don't want Kagawa or any other of our targets. The good thing with football is that's there's always someone else.
We're on a level below CFC and City, if they want a player that we want, we aint getting him. Let's just hope they don't want Kagawa or any other of our targets. The good thing with football is that's there's always someone else.
We have actual wingers though. Seriously Hazard might be a great talent but an attacking midfielder isn't our biggest need at all, a full back and a Centre Mid is far more important.
What was United's £70m? Rooney was £30m, Nani and Valencia were both £20m... do you think we'll get Kagawa for free?
Rooney cost 27, Nani 14, Valencia 16 and I seem to remember reading that Dortmund want 13 from us for Kagawa.
Football is over, it's as simple as that. There's no such things as club identity and past history any more, it's all about the money, money, money
Chelsea fans are laughing now but they'll be crying in 10-15 years
Nani cost 25 million euro, which is 20 million pounds.
And trophies too of course, and CL football, but once you offer that it comes down to money money money.
Are you sure about that? Thought it was 14m rising to 17m?
Anderson cost €30m. Dear oh dear.
Anderson cost €30m. Dear oh dear.
I've decided to support Chelsea.
Rooney was 28m, Nani 17-20m, Valencia 16m.
A 13.6m was rejected by Dortmund for Kagawa, he's going to cost us at least 16m, probably more like 18m.
Was the next Ronaldinho when we signed him, oh well.
Yeah, no way did Nani cost 25m euro.
Agreed, no chance. Ando didn't cost 30 either.
Porto themselves announced the 30 million euros for Anderson. Odd if they lied.
He actually did cost 25.5m Euros IIRC, but obviously the exchange rate was a lot better back then... Was more like 60p to a Euro I think. Now it's more like 80p. Makes a big difference when we're talking millions.
I believe the reported combined fees were around £35M at the time. 25M Euros probably will have been about £17M at the time.
Didn't that come out of the Porto accounts ie one of the few verifiable fees?
There's been a lot of weird nonsense peddled about transfer fees we paid in the past of late, usually based on current exchange rates.
Yeah it was £17m for Anderson and £14m for Nani at the time.
Why did we buy Anderson? Did we actually think he was the new Ronaldinho? To be fair, those YouTube clips...
£17.3 million-ish by my calculations for Nani and £20.4m for Anderson. feck me that was some summer, the football we'd just played and then to add Nani, Anderson and Hargreaves on top 
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.Euro's going to hell in a handcart all over again. If English clubs really want value they'll leave their signings until the very last day of the transfer window.
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